Manchester UTD V Liverpool

Two great friends of mine frm sa are making the trip to watch this match.
They both are mufc fans and I'm lfc.
But I hope the game is filled with goals so that they enjoy.

SirPuntalot wrote: Two great friends of mine frm sa are making the trip to watch this match.
They both are mufc fans and I'm lfc.
But I hope the game is filled with goals so that they enjoy.

tell your friends to bring thick coats and woolly hats and gloves because its very cold at the moment and they are predicting artic conditions for later in the week

Lucky_Dude wrote:

gregbucks wrote: What ever happened to all the pool supporters from last season, are they still around??

I'm still here. Liverpool just seem to lack the bite they had last year

Clever Dude...

This is what Gary Neville said on Sky Sports after the match last night.


Neville was highly critical of United's performance on Sky Sports, saying they "got away with murder", and that this Sunday's game against Liverpool would be like watching "the Dog and Duck against the Red Lion".


"It was awful at times, it really was," Neville said. "United's passing was laughable, and when Van Gaal watches it back I'm sure they'll feel the same. United got away with murder tonight."

chicken n chips wrote: This is what Gary Neville said on Sky Sports after the match last night.


Neville was highly critical of United's performance on Sky Sports, saying they "got away with murder", and that this Sunday's game against Liverpool would be like watching "the Dog and Duck against the Red Lion".


"It was awful at times, it really was," Neville said. "United's passing was laughable, and when Van Gaal watches it back I'm sure they'll feel the same. United got away with murder tonight."

Amazing that united are 3rd considering the shit football they playing, they can only improve.

and that's scary fot the likes of myself :lol:

Hey Welcome back Greg.

Seriously, a pathetic game yesterday. We can only improve. I would love to know which defenders LVG has lined up for January

agra wrote: Hey Welcome back Greg.

Seriously, a pathetic game yesterday. We can only improve. I would love to know which defenders LVG has lined up for January

on this occasion I am delighted to be the bearer of bad news. Have a read

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/artic...d-buy-defenders.html

chicken n chips wrote:

agra wrote: Hey Welcome back Greg.

Seriously, a pathetic game yesterday. We can only improve. I would love to know which defenders LVG has lined up for January

on this occasion I am delighted to be the bearer of bad news. Have a read

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/artic...d-buy-defenders.html

That's ridiculous C&C.
I also heard that Real Madrid wants to make the Varela loan deal permanent.
If LVG let's that happen, then he is sick.
I watched Varela play for the Argentine U19's during the off season and he was brilliant.

Some clubs like Arsenal and United definitely need to bolster their defences. Buying young 19 year olds is not the answer. Both clubs need two established defenders who are playing in the premier league or the Italian league (best defenders in the world are made, developed and perfected in the old country)

While I do not think any of them are brilliant, at least as yet, I do think that some of United's defenders take more than their fair share of flack unnecessarily. Chris Smalling for example, I have heard glowing reports on some of his performances this year and last but he is being hampered by unfortunately having his "momentum" broken by consistent injuries. Both he and Phil Jones will also have partly suffered by being played out of position under Fergie... the same way John O'Shea and Wes Brown, imho the two best centre half prospects I have ever seen (along with Paul McGrath), partly lost their way because they so rarely played in their best positions. They, many years later, don't do a half bad job at a somewhat struggling club, now they regular play in that centre back position.

For sure, United seem to lack a commanding figure at the back but they have also suffered greatly from the poor play further forward, you can't consistently give the ball away in your half and expect your defenders/defence to get organised in time to deal with the threats that ensue. The whole art of defending is being an organised unit and United simply can't function as one currently because imo 1. the team as a whole is being set up wrong and 2. as a team they are giving the ball away in suicidal areas. A hammering may not be far off but if you consider that Arsenal and Southampton both dominated and despite the opportunities to attack that defence only scored once each and maybe missed one sitter each, I don't think that, as individuals, United's defence can be hugely criticised for their defensive play, indeed in many ways they have saved us from hefty defeats in both those games. The primary problems in my opinion are a lot more basic and a decent manager should have them resolved in a month rather than 3 years. That is not to say LVG is a bad manager, but I am a long way from convinced at this stage. He may have led Bayern n Barcelona to success but he was also sacked by both I believe not too long after. Jury definitely remains out for me but as ever, here's hoping!

Englander the keeper has saved United in at least 4 matches this season. Those 2 world class saves he made against Everton, against Arsenal he made 3 and last night that save from Pelle was brilliant. That's why Real Madrid are after him and that's why LVG has brought in the ex Barcelona keeper Valdes.