what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
Hilton either you are loosing the plot or you are making statements that even you know are crap just to try justify your warped thinking..
A. There are positives and there are POSITIVES even the oke that sells race cards outside the racecourse knows that.
B. Do you think that a stable who can fire (and does) the way that Paul's yard can would "dope" a horse (as you are implying} and let it start 5/2??
The oke who sells the race cards neighbors gardener knows that is an impossibility..
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You used to post very valid points before that made me and many others sit up and take notice but somewhere along the way the red mist has clouded your reasoning and you have become "a life according to Andrewest merchant" sad but true.
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A. There are positives and there are POSITIVES even the oke that sells race cards outside the racecourse knows that.
B. Do you think that a stable who can fire (and does) the way that Paul's yard can would "dope" a horse (as you are implying} and let it start 5/2??
The oke who sells the race cards neighbors gardener knows that is an impossibility..
Magica Roma Opened 5/1 touched 7/1 started evens...specimens taken for analysis result NEGATIVE..all clear pay pay
You used to post very valid points before that made me and many others sit up and take notice but somewhere along the way the red mist has clouded your reasoning and you have become "a life according to Andrewest merchant" sad but true.
And BTW as the advert will attest to Everybody loves Illovo
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> Hilton either you are loosing the plot or you are
> making statements that even you know are crap just
> to try justify your warped thinking..
> A. There are positives and there are POSITIVES
> even the oke that sells race cards outside the
> racecourse knows that.
> B. Do you think that a stable who can fire (and
> does) the way that Paul's yard can would "dope" a
> horse (as you are implying} and let it start
> 5/2??
> The oke who sells the race cards neighbors
> gardener knows that is an impossibility..
>
> Magica Roma Opened 5/1 touched 7/1 started
> evens...specimens taken for analysis result
> NEGATIVE..all clear pay pay
>
> You used to post very valid points before that
> made me and many others sit up and take notice but
> somewhere along the way the red mist has clouded
> your reasoning and you have become "a life
> according to Andrewest merchant" sad but true.
>
> And BTW as the advert will attest to Everybody
> loves Illovo
Titch you have got fcuk all idea how the betting market works so rather keep your trap shut pal...if you want to know give me a call ,,,you have my number
> Hilton either you are loosing the plot or you are
> making statements that even you know are crap just
> to try justify your warped thinking..
> A. There are positives and there are POSITIVES
> even the oke that sells race cards outside the
> racecourse knows that.
> B. Do you think that a stable who can fire (and
> does) the way that Paul's yard can would "dope" a
> horse (as you are implying} and let it start
> 5/2??
> The oke who sells the race cards neighbors
> gardener knows that is an impossibility..
>
> Magica Roma Opened 5/1 touched 7/1 started
> evens...specimens taken for analysis result
> NEGATIVE..all clear pay pay
>
> You used to post very valid points before that
> made me and many others sit up and take notice but
> somewhere along the way the red mist has clouded
> your reasoning and you have become "a life
> according to Andrewest merchant" sad but true.
>
> And BTW as the advert will attest to Everybody
> loves Illovo
Titch you have got fcuk all idea how the betting market works so rather keep your trap shut pal...if you want to know give me a call ,,,you have my number
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
and believe me titch whaT you think of me i dont give a flying fcuk pal as i take it from whence it comes
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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mmmmmmmmmm underlying grievances....answer me this if you are so well primed in every aspect of every subject and so well versed in every aspect of the game have you ever been wrong,,,maybe just once?? and I dont have your number,never had the inclination to save it
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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Titch Wrote:
> mmmmmmmmmm underlying grievances....answer me this
> if you are so well primed in every aspect of every
> subject and so well versed in every aspect of the
> game have you ever been wrong,,,maybe just once??
> and I dont have your number,never had the
> inclination to save it
titch unlike you i have been wrong plenty times but when it comes to betting markets you can get very large bets on without changing the price of the horse...you must start realising that not every person out there are mugs ...you seem very sensitive that starspangled came up with a positive and try justify your opinion by saying there was no money on the horse...that is not the point...the point is the rules were broken and one horse raced with a banned substance that gives it an unfair edge over the others...if you believe this is ok then good luck to you...the horse who ran 2nd started 6 to 10 so dont you feel anything for those punters or connections of the horse?that stable is also hard working and dedicated...dont take me for a cnut pal
> mmmmmmmmmm underlying grievances....answer me this
> if you are so well primed in every aspect of every
> subject and so well versed in every aspect of the
> game have you ever been wrong,,,maybe just once??
> and I dont have your number,never had the
> inclination to save it
titch unlike you i have been wrong plenty times but when it comes to betting markets you can get very large bets on without changing the price of the horse...you must start realising that not every person out there are mugs ...you seem very sensitive that starspangled came up with a positive and try justify your opinion by saying there was no money on the horse...that is not the point...the point is the rules were broken and one horse raced with a banned substance that gives it an unfair edge over the others...if you believe this is ok then good luck to you...the horse who ran 2nd started 6 to 10 so dont you feel anything for those punters or connections of the horse?that stable is also hard working and dedicated...dont take me for a cnut pal
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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The horse was found to be positive but it was NOT a performance enhancing substance if you took the time to check the FACTS then you would know that...and as for taking one for a cnut best you practice what you preach or are you looking to make this personal??
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
J-Pegged Wrote:
> pirates Wrote:
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> > i notice that starspangledbanner has been
> > disqualified from his victory at clairwood 26th
> > june and red revenge awarded the race..he was
> > ridden by marcus who was chasing the jocks
> title
> > at the time...what happens to the the jockeys
> log
> > with this disqualification as if marcus won by
> one
> > then it could have been interesting with this
> > disqualification
> Never mind what happens to the jock champs, what
> about the rich punters that have cleaned up with
> the said trainers winning streak, it has been
> rumoured in racing circles that there may be many
> more positive samples . Why has this infringement
> not hit the racing media like that of others,
> because the trainer is the posterboy for his
> overnight novice success.
i didnt bring up what you so sensitive about jaypegged did so jump down his throat ...i merely asked how it affected the jockeys log
> pirates Wrote:
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> > i notice that starspangledbanner has been
> > disqualified from his victory at clairwood 26th
> > june and red revenge awarded the race..he was
> > ridden by marcus who was chasing the jocks
> title
> > at the time...what happens to the the jockeys
> log
> > with this disqualification as if marcus won by
> one
> > then it could have been interesting with this
> > disqualification
> Never mind what happens to the jock champs, what
> about the rich punters that have cleaned up with
> the said trainers winning streak, it has been
> rumoured in racing circles that there may be many
> more positive samples . Why has this infringement
> not hit the racing media like that of others,
> because the trainer is the posterboy for his
> overnight novice success.
i didnt bring up what you so sensitive about jaypegged did so jump down his throat ...i merely asked how it affected the jockeys log
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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Iif you go back and have a look at your earlier posts and compare them to the drivel you now post you will see what i mean..
According to you there is not 1 positive thing in the entire racing Industry you see every thing that goes on in the game as being mishandled mismanaged or some form of skulduggery yet you have been involved in a multitude of aspects of the game for years and surprisingly still are...I have not seen 1 single positive post by you in over a year and can only think that if it was 10% as bad as you will have us believe you would be long gone!!
According to you there is not 1 positive thing in the entire racing Industry you see every thing that goes on in the game as being mishandled mismanaged or some form of skulduggery yet you have been involved in a multitude of aspects of the game for years and surprisingly still are...I have not seen 1 single positive post by you in over a year and can only think that if it was 10% as bad as you will have us believe you would be long gone!!
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
titch the point is whatever was used leaves a horse pain free and when you pain free you run faster ...
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
Titch Wrote:
> Iif you go back and have a look at your earlier
> posts and compare them to the drivel you now post
> you will see what i mean..
> According to you there is not 1 positive thing in
> the entire racing Industry you see every thing
> that goes on in the game as being mishandled
> mismanaged or some form of skulduggery yet you
> have been involved in a multitude of aspects of
> the game for years and surprisingly still are...I
> have not seen 1 single positive post by you in
> over a year and can only think that if it was 10%
> as bad as you will have us believe you would be
> long gone!!
thats your opinion and you entitled to it...there is very little to enthuse about with the current state of racing and thats my opinion...i have tried to help with one massive problem and im still waiting feedback ...it was started on this forum with craig eudey last week regarding ideas on increasing turnover...believe me titch if i could get a job outside the industry i would be long gone but unfortunately iv had several doors slammed in my face and believe me its not through a lack of trying...i see and say things the way they are not the way i would like to see them and maybe thats why i have never had a job in this industry
> Iif you go back and have a look at your earlier
> posts and compare them to the drivel you now post
> you will see what i mean..
> According to you there is not 1 positive thing in
> the entire racing Industry you see every thing
> that goes on in the game as being mishandled
> mismanaged or some form of skulduggery yet you
> have been involved in a multitude of aspects of
> the game for years and surprisingly still are...I
> have not seen 1 single positive post by you in
> over a year and can only think that if it was 10%
> as bad as you will have us believe you would be
> long gone!!
thats your opinion and you entitled to it...there is very little to enthuse about with the current state of racing and thats my opinion...i have tried to help with one massive problem and im still waiting feedback ...it was started on this forum with craig eudey last week regarding ideas on increasing turnover...believe me titch if i could get a job outside the industry i would be long gone but unfortunately iv had several doors slammed in my face and believe me its not through a lack of trying...i see and say things the way they are not the way i would like to see them and maybe thats why i have never had a job in this industry
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
13 years 8 months ago
Leading up to the race in question Starspangledbanner runs 3rd a sht/head behind Mister Slam who wins his next start beating Live Controversy by 3,25 L.
Live Controversy's next start results in a 3/4 length beating of Red Revenge, Red Revenge next start runs 3rd beaten 3 lengths by Kirov (still a maiden) ...when the form is taken into account there is no doubt the right horse won
Live Controversy's next start results in a 3/4 length beating of Red Revenge, Red Revenge next start runs 3rd beaten 3 lengths by Kirov (still a maiden) ...when the form is taken into account there is no doubt the right horse won
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Re: Re: what happens to jockeys log when a horse is disqualified
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kirov has won and ran 3rd in open company on sunday in the last race a t clairwood but starspangled has gone backwards since the maiden win running unplaced twice on sand and today finishing 20 lengths behind on his first run back on grass after his maiden win....but that is not the point...the point is you have to obey jockey club rules on medication doping call it what you want
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