Go Bokke
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13 years 8 months ago
so Mr H are u indicating Wales is a better team than da BOKKE!bt seriously guys...MAN UP...U LOST AND THEY COMING HOME!!! Nw for my team to win 39-12...GO NZ GO!!! BANKER BANKER:D
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13 years 8 months ago
yes i am Hein - wales have just got better and they have a young bunch of players that can only improve - i realise we beat them but i fear if we had to play them again it would have been a different story -
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13 years 8 months ago
There is no good way to lose but I am pleased that they went out with fight. They played excellently bar the most important part of the game - Score points!!!
Its a great shame that Fransie was missing. He would have nailed those long rangers.
Its a great shame that Fransie was missing. He would have nailed those long rangers.
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13 years 8 months ago
i agree with that statement Mr.H!if Wales converted their chances in2 points in that game than they wudve won
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13 years 8 months ago
Last match that Bryce Lawrence beat us, I swore I won't watch a match that he is ref again. Today I watched again and the @#!% beat us again!
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13 years 8 months ago
scotia Wrote:
> How did they lose ?
Convert possession and territory into POINTS!!!
Now PDiv is ducking. Shoulda left before.
> How did they lose ?
Convert possession and territory into POINTS!!!
Now PDiv is ducking. Shoulda left before.
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13 years 8 months ago
Cheers Victor & John. You guy's were great for SA rugby. Snor will have to go with Muir, Gold, etc. What a relief. We played flippin well today, but If you want to be a champion, you must learn to adapt to the way the ref blows, AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITIES that come your way.
It's like death in the family.
It's like death in the family.

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13 years 8 months ago
Quote from last week's Sunday Independent, "Horan heavily criticised referee Bryce Lawrence and said he should not oversee another match at the World Cup."
Will he say the same this week?
However, we had all the play and fate had it that 3 Bok mistakes would all provide points for Aus.
Very unlucky and the only bigger travesty I've seen is Lions Durban 2nd test 1997.
Burger, Spies and Rossouw are all too similar and having Bizzy on from the start would have provided an option of a game breaker among the forwards.
So, imo starting with Smit cost us as most predicted it would.
No sour grapes intended but I predicted a year ago that Lawrence would preside over the game we went out in in World Cup although I'm no expert and will leave it to the experts to decide whether he had an influence on the outcome. In my biased view tho he allowed play at the breakdown that was contrary to the laws and the Aussies appeared to know he would from the off while we had to learn that he would.
Here's the opinion of one expert.
Rugby World Cup 2011: Bryce Lawrence reduced breakdown to a farce in Australia's win over South Africa
Paddy O'Brien, the IRB's head of refs, told me before the start of the tournament that no World Cup had ever been decided by the man in the middle.
It is a highly debatable claim and certainly the refs went out of their way to try to get Australia over the line in 2003. But you would not rule out this Rugby World Cup being decided on a shonky decision.
Mr Bryce Lawrence, the son of an official, is rated rather highly by those in charge of the whistle blowers. But a lot of players and fans have absolutely no idea why. He made a complete hash of today's game between Australia and South Africa and the Springboks will be furious.
They identified the breakdown as a crucial area of the match beforehand, but they did expect there to be some sort of reffing.
The South Africans thought that the tackler would have to release the ball carrier. They thought that the offside line would be respected. They thought that men would have to stay on the feet. Instead it was a complete shambles.
The trouble is that Lawrence has form at this sort of thing. He was given the final of Super Rugby for apparently being the best ref in the tournament.
Some of us thought that the South African refs were in an altogether different class. They would also have had the advantage of being neutral as the final was between an Aussie and a Kiwi side. But no, Mr Lawrence got the nod.
And despite all the fantastic players on the pitch, the match became a farce because Lawrence had absolutely no control over the breakdown. Players were diving in on all sides. It became a free-for-all.
What could have been a great game of rugby turned into a mess, because Lawrence did not rule the breakdown.
So should we be surprised at today's snore. More often than not dull matches are greatly contributed to by the refs inability to be accurate at the contact area. Yes, South Africa are nothing like as efficient there without the great Juan Smith to clean out.
But unless the IRB's refs get a grip we are going to have some really dull semi-finals. Hopefully the guys who can really get a grip at the breakdown – the South Africans and the Northern Hemisphere refs – will be put in charge of the final four matches.
If we let a Kiwi near the games, then it will be more mayhem. South Africa will feel cheated. And they have every right to complain.
The Aussies have already made one New Zealand ref – Steve Walsh – one of their own. Lawrence could well be next in line for honorary citizenship.
Will he say the same this week?
However, we had all the play and fate had it that 3 Bok mistakes would all provide points for Aus.
Very unlucky and the only bigger travesty I've seen is Lions Durban 2nd test 1997.
Burger, Spies and Rossouw are all too similar and having Bizzy on from the start would have provided an option of a game breaker among the forwards.
So, imo starting with Smit cost us as most predicted it would.
No sour grapes intended but I predicted a year ago that Lawrence would preside over the game we went out in in World Cup although I'm no expert and will leave it to the experts to decide whether he had an influence on the outcome. In my biased view tho he allowed play at the breakdown that was contrary to the laws and the Aussies appeared to know he would from the off while we had to learn that he would.
Here's the opinion of one expert.
Rugby World Cup 2011: Bryce Lawrence reduced breakdown to a farce in Australia's win over South Africa
Paddy O'Brien, the IRB's head of refs, told me before the start of the tournament that no World Cup had ever been decided by the man in the middle.
It is a highly debatable claim and certainly the refs went out of their way to try to get Australia over the line in 2003. But you would not rule out this Rugby World Cup being decided on a shonky decision.
Mr Bryce Lawrence, the son of an official, is rated rather highly by those in charge of the whistle blowers. But a lot of players and fans have absolutely no idea why. He made a complete hash of today's game between Australia and South Africa and the Springboks will be furious.
They identified the breakdown as a crucial area of the match beforehand, but they did expect there to be some sort of reffing.
The South Africans thought that the tackler would have to release the ball carrier. They thought that the offside line would be respected. They thought that men would have to stay on the feet. Instead it was a complete shambles.
The trouble is that Lawrence has form at this sort of thing. He was given the final of Super Rugby for apparently being the best ref in the tournament.
Some of us thought that the South African refs were in an altogether different class. They would also have had the advantage of being neutral as the final was between an Aussie and a Kiwi side. But no, Mr Lawrence got the nod.
And despite all the fantastic players on the pitch, the match became a farce because Lawrence had absolutely no control over the breakdown. Players were diving in on all sides. It became a free-for-all.
What could have been a great game of rugby turned into a mess, because Lawrence did not rule the breakdown.
So should we be surprised at today's snore. More often than not dull matches are greatly contributed to by the refs inability to be accurate at the contact area. Yes, South Africa are nothing like as efficient there without the great Juan Smith to clean out.
But unless the IRB's refs get a grip we are going to have some really dull semi-finals. Hopefully the guys who can really get a grip at the breakdown – the South Africans and the Northern Hemisphere refs – will be put in charge of the final four matches.
If we let a Kiwi near the games, then it will be more mayhem. South Africa will feel cheated. And they have every right to complain.
The Aussies have already made one New Zealand ref – Steve Walsh – one of their own. Lawrence could well be next in line for honorary citizenship.
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Re: Re: Go Bokke
13 years 8 months ago
i will take a stand now and say that we will be in the top two at the next WC
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Re: Re: Go Bokke
13 years 8 months ago
I dont mind being beaten fair and square by a better team but not being beaten by a one eyed ref!
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