BACK IN THE DAYS

Gosforth Park was also my fave, but my biggest win in the 80's was at Turfontein. I remember Lloyd winning the first leg on Devil's Tattoo for Ormond Ferraris. He then went on to run second in every other leg. Bennie de Wet won 2 legs that day. Jackpot paid R5000. Also the bipot at Cape Town was called the quinpot. I rmember winning one my dad played for me when I was 5 years old.

I'm looking at Gosforth Park's last race card - 2nd Feb 2002 - the Met was run the same day. I remember at the time I thought it was a poor race card but how wrong I was:

Race 1 - the unraced Aquila Rapax.
Race 4 - still a maiden and her 3rd run was Kournikova - she was subsequently only one of two horses to have ever beaten Ipi Tombi.
Race 7 - Al Nitak's 2nd start for Buddy Maroun and subsequently a multiple Grade 1 winner.

Race 6 had a bet called the Supa Tupa - whatever that is.
"Fundi" is the new name mystery bet.

Some carded trainers are Tanse Leisher, Mazaham and Tambourlas.
Some carded jockeys are Lisa Prestwood (subsequently 1st girl jock to win a Gr1 (Al Nitak)) and Kevin Derere (subsequently 1st black jock to win a Gr1).

I remember standing outside the off-course tote asking people inside to take my PA, 12 years old:)

@titch

ever wonder how much the 25 percent take out affects your winning chances? But never mind that cause any self respecting punter does not back on the tote.
I won't be backing ponies again cause I feel like a fool when the results simply don't tally. Yes there might be some successful punters but generally, when one looks around, you are surrounded by losers and hobbyists. If you get good info and bet intelligently you should show a decent profit.
I have followed tipsters based in PE and been just as dissapointed. They are snake oil salesman. Selling the idea of a magical profit to the usual customers.

On a more positive note, racing does leave some wonderful memories, those champion horses that really did perform consistently and reliably. The horse men should take a leaf out of those horses books... well some.

@ Fogwils

I think the horse you refer to that beat Rule by the Sword was Jungle Rock which was trained by Spike Lerena .He was a lovely grey.

On another occasion Rule by the Sword caused a huge blwout when he came from the clouds to beat the grey Bodrum[Jeff LLoyd] in another feature race.

mike sack im sure rule by the sword was trained by buller benton...?

avanza Wrote:

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> @titch
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> ever wonder how much the 25 percent take out
> affects your winning chances?

At the risk of belaboring the point the 25% take out does not affect ones winning chances only your winning amount...much like taking 35/1 on roulette wheel but has to be better than black jack when the bank can often take your money without even having to draw a card??

pirates Wrote:

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.the operators do very little to
> correct this situation and racing punters are
> moving away to other forms partly because of
> it..

The pools just keep growing and the sales rings remain full...so if the racing punters are moving away to other forms of gambling then there is either new players making racing their choice of gambling/entertainment or the played out story of a racing exodus is utter bullsh!t I tend to lean firmly to the latter.

titch you have been in this game for a long time for this some time you can be a stupid. one man he exit racing today and we have the huge problem. go look for flamingo park, he pull out and now there is huge problem. dont be silly racing today is no where near where it was 10/20/30 year ago. look at the number of owner then and now and you get idea. it survive on over seas and sport betting

Titch Wrote:

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> pirates Wrote:
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> .the operators do very little to
> > correct this situation and racing punters are
> > moving away to other forms partly because of
> > it..
>
> The pools just keep growing and the sales rings
> remain full...so if the racing punters are moving
> away to other forms of gambling then there is
> either new players making racing their choice of
> gambling/entertainment or the played out story of
> a racing exodus is utter bullsh!t I tend to lean
> firmly to the latter.


ya titch you are 100 percent correct ...racing is in a great spot and they dont need to do anything just like other top 100 companies who just rest on their laurels...you really are a laugh pal as you know more than riaan du plessis who said the opposite in his review regarding the results 6 mths ago..but hey what does he know compared to our titch

-D is a miracle, me and my good friend we agree

pirates Wrote:

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> ya titch you are 100 percent correct ...racing is
> in a great spot and they dont need to do anything
> just like other top 100 companies who just rest on
> their laurels...you really are a laugh pal as you
> know more than riaan du plessis who said the
> opposite in his review regarding the results 6
> mths ago..but hey what does he know compared to
> our titch

Just to clarify my thinking in your opinion does riaan du plessis know what he is doing or not?? he seems to slide up and down your hit parade to suit your argument at any given time