What`s Arsenal and Liverpools excuse this year?

Let the Celebrations begin....

The Lion Roars Tonight...

davetheflower Wrote:

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> The Lion Roars Tonight...

One was roaring just outside my window a few minutes ago...

after 8 games out of 38 its a bit early for this thread..this time last year arsenal were near the bottom 3 and they ended up third..lots of football left..the pathetic spending on crap like downing,henderson,adam etc and the bad management of the carroll transfer by dalglish have prob put the owners off spending big again..but rodgers is a top man and has got lfc going the right way again.so yes lfc are rebuilding like they have been the last 6 years as u say but now its happening the right way...after all lfc isnt a russian whore house,cant spend 100mil a year on players when things dont go to plan(sorry titch lol)

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As yet another person has mentioned this 6 years rebuilding business, I feel compelled to ask the question... why can't people see reality and look at Liverpool's Premier League record and tell me what is so different from 20 years ago to 6 years ago to current day? In the last three seasons of the old Division One Liverpool finished 1st, 2nd, 6th. I am not being bias but I truly believe that this 4-6 year stuff is utter nonsense, I don't think United (or others) have ever considered Liverpool serious challengers in any year of the Premier League's existence. Even when they came runners-up I don't think any neutral thought they would finish as Champions. Unless satisfaction is to be had finishing 3rd to 8th every year, this is not about rebuilding, this is hoping for a resurrection of times from a quarter of a century ago. Rodgers may achieve it, who knows, but pleeeeeeeeeese stop thinking Liverpool were a force in the Premiership to be reckoned with 4-6 years ago, they absolutely were not.

1992–93 Premier League 42 16 11 15 62 55 59 6th
1993–94 Premier League 42 17 9 16 59 55 60 8th
1994–95 Premier League 42 21 11 10 65 37 74 4th
1995–96 Premier League 38 20 11 7 70 34 71 3rd
1996–97 Premier League 38 19 11 8 62 37 68 4th
1997–98 Premier League 38 18 11 9 68 42 65 3rd
1998–99 Premier League 38 15 9 14 68 49 54 7th
1999–2000 Premier League 38 19 10 9 51 30 67 4th
2000–01 Premier League 38 20 9 9 71 39 69 3rd
2001–02 Premier League 38 24 8 6 67 30 80 2nd
2002–03 Premier League 38 18 10 10 61 41 64 5th
2003–04 Premier League 38 16 12 10 55 37 60 4th
2004–05 Premier League 38 17 7 14 52 41 58 5th
2005–06 Premier League 38 25 7 6 57 25 82 3rd
2006–07 Premier League 38 20 8 10 57 27 68 3rd
2007–08 Premier League 38 21 13 4 67 28 76 4th
2008–09 Premier League 38 25 11 2 77 27 86 2nd
2009–10 Premier League 38 18 9 11 61 35 63 7th
2010–11 Premier League 38 17 7 14 59 44 58 6th
2011–12 Premier League 38 14 10 14 47 40 52 8th

Englander Wrote:

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> As yet another person has mentioned this 6 years
> rebuilding business, I feel compelled to ask the
> question... why can't people see reality and look
> at Liverpool's Premier League record and tell me
> what is so different from 20 years ago to 6 years
> ago to current day? In the last three seasons of
> the old Division One Liverpool finished 1st, 2nd,
> 6th. I am not being bias but I truly believe that
> this 4-6 year stuff is utter nonsense, I don't
> think United (or others) have ever considered
> Liverpool serious challengers in any year of the
> Premier League's existence. Even when they came
> runners-up I don't think any neutral thought they
> would finish as Champions. Unless satisfaction is
> to be had finishing 3rd to 8th every year, this is
> not about rebuilding, this is hoping for a
> resurrection of times from a quarter of a century
> ago. Rodgers may achieve it, who knows, but
> pleeeeeeeeeese stop thinking Liverpool were a
> force in the Premiership to be reckoned with 4-6
> years ago, they absolutely were not.
>
> 1992–93 Premier
> League 42 16 11 15 62 55 59 6th
> 1993–94 Premier League 42 17 9 16 59 55 60 8th
> 1994–95 Premier
> League 42 21 11 10 65 37 74 4th
> 1995–96 Premier League 38 20 11 7 70 34 71 3rd
> 1996–97 Premier League 38 19 11 8 62 37 68 4th
> 1997–98 Premier League 38 18 11 9 68 42 65 3rd
> 1998–99 Premier League 38 15 9 14 68 49 54 7th
> 1999–2000 Premier
> League 38 19 10 9 51 30 67 4th
> 2000–01 Premier League 38 20 9 9 71 39 69 3rd
> 2001–02 Premier League 38 24 8 6 67 30 80 2nd
> 2002–03 Premier
> League 38 18 10 10 61 41 64 5th
> 2003–04 Premier
> League 38 16 12 10 55 37 60 4th
> 2004–05 Premier League 38 17 7 14 52 41 58 5th
> 2005–06 Premier League 38 25 7 6 57 25 82 3rd
> 2006–07 Premier League 38 20 8 10 57 27 68 3rd
> 2007–08 Premier League 38 21 13 4 67 28 76 4th
> 2008–09 Premier League 38 25 11 2 77 27 86 2nd
> 2009–10 Premier League 38 18 9 11 61 35 63 7th
> 2010–11 Premier League 38 17 7 14 59 44 58 6th
> 2011–12 Premier League 38 14 10 14 47 40 52 8th


I admire your consistency Engles,you really do hate them

davetheflower Wrote:

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> Englander Wrote:
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>

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> > As yet another person has mentioned this 6
> years
> > rebuilding business, I feel compelled to ask
> the
> > question... why can't people see reality and
> look
> > at Liverpool's Premier League record and tell
> me
> > what is so different from 20 years ago to 6
> years
> > ago to current day? In the last three seasons
> of
> > the old Division One Liverpool finished 1st,
> 2nd,
> > 6th. I am not being bias but I truly believe
> that
> > this 4-6 year stuff is utter nonsense, I don't
> > think United (or others) have ever considered
> > Liverpool serious challengers in any year of
> the
> > Premier League's existence. Even when they came
> > runners-up I don't think any neutral thought
> they
> > would finish as Champions. Unless satisfaction
> is
> > to be had finishing 3rd to 8th every year, this
> is
> > not about rebuilding, this is hoping for a
> > resurrection of times from a quarter of a
> century
> > ago. Rodgers may achieve it, who knows, but
> > pleeeeeeeeeese stop thinking Liverpool were a
> > force in the Premiership to be reckoned with
> 4-6
> > years ago, they absolutely were not.
> >
> > 1992–93 Premier
> > League 42 16 11 15 62 55 59 6th
> > 1993–94 Premier
> League 42 17 9 16 59 55 60 8th
> > 1994–95 Premier
> > League 42 21 11 10 65 37 74 4th
> > 1995–96 Premier
> League 38 20 11 7 70 34 71 3rd
> > 1996–97 Premier
> League 38 19 11 8 62 37 68 4th
> > 1997–98 Premier
> League 38 18 11 9 68 42 65 3rd
> > 1998–99 Premier
> League 38 15 9 14 68 49 54 7th
> > 1999–2000 Premier
> > League 38 19 10 9 51 30 67 4th
> > 2000–01 Premier
> League 38 20 9 9 71 39 69 3rd
> > 2001–02 Premier
> League 38 24 8 6 67 30 80 2nd
> > 2002–03 Premier
> > League 38 18 10 10 61 41 64 5th
> > 2003–04 Premier
> > League 38 16 12 10 55 37 60 4th
> > 2004–05 Premier
> League 38 17 7 14 52 41 58 5th
> > 2005–06 Premier
> League 38 25 7 6 57 25 82 3rd
> > 2006–07 Premier
> League 38 20 8 10 57 27 68 3rd
> > 2007–08 Premier
> League 38 21 13 4 67 28 76 4th
> > 2008–09 Premier
> League 38 25 11 2 77 27 86 2nd
> > 2009–10 Premier
> League 38 18 9 11 61 35 63 7th
> > 2010–11 Premier
> League 38 17 7 14 59 44 58 6th
> > 2011–12 Premier
> League 38 14 10 14 47 40 52 8th
>
>
> I admire your consistency Engles,you really do
> hate them

Give that Englander a bells:... errr maybe a cider...

JustinV Wrote:

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> after 8 games out of 38 its a bit early for this
> thread..this time last year arsenal were near the
> bottom 3 and they ended up third..lots of football
> left..the pathetic spending on crap like
> downing,henderson,adam etc and the bad management
> of the carroll transfer by dalglish have prob put
> the owners off spending big again..but rodgers is
> a top man and has got lfc going the right way
> again.so yes lfc are rebuilding like they have
> been the last 6 years as u say but now its
> happening the right way...after all lfc isnt a
> russian whore house,cant spend 100mil a year on
> players when things dont go to plan(sorry titch
> lol)
>
> ()


Come on Justin every team wants an Abramovich,,At least he's in it for the long haul.
CHELSEA CHELSEA CHELSEA

You are quite correct GB, I have a strong disliking of whiskey, vodka would have sufficed nicely but I am not adverse to necking a bottle or two (or more!) of Savanna Dry or Hunters Dry <
DTF, I strongly believe it is not good for football as one day they will not be there and what will be left... ashes to ashes... but I also believe you are correct. 99% of teams would take in such a benefactor, madness not to.
DTF, you are also correct, as you know, that I do indeed have a hatred of Liverpool, I have never made any attempt to disguise the fact. BUT, my argument is about football and hatred does not come into it, their record speaks for itself and (just talking, no offence meant towards anyone) I just think anyone who talks about Liverpool returning to the greatness of 4-6 years ago needs their head examined... they were not a great team 4-6 years ago, not even close to it and they did not even look like becoming one. 25 years ago they were a great team. I am obviously pleased that the numbers wanting to join my idiots revolution seems to be increasing by the day but this lack of living in reality doesn't make for a decent football chat

davetheflower Wrote:

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> JustinV Wrote:
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> > after 8 games out of 38 its a bit early for
> this
> > thread..this time last year arsenal were near
> the
> > bottom 3 and they ended up third..lots of
> football
> > left..the pathetic spending on crap like
> > downing,henderson,adam etc and the bad
> management
> > of the carroll transfer by dalglish have prob
> put
> > the owners off spending big again..but rodgers
> is
> > a top man and has got lfc going the right way
> > again.so yes lfc are rebuilding like they have
> > been the last 6 years as u say but now its
> > happening the right way...after all lfc isnt a
> > russian whore house,cant spend 100mil a year on
> > players when things dont go to plan(sorry titch
> > lol)
> >
> > ()
>
>
> Come on Justin every team wants an Abramovich,,At
> least he's in it for the long haul.
> CHELSEA CHELSEA CHELSEA


lol till he dies or gets bored..i support lfc cause they a great club,not a great team..in history of hundreds of years the present means little..there will be times when they were the best,then battle to compete for anything,then be the best again etc as the wheel turns over the next 40 years..look at the league challengers 30 years ago and lookat it now.imagine it in 30 years time,will be completely different im sure.but LFC will always be up there somewhere giving me some excitement! going to watch the spurs game march 9th..cant wait

At least Liverpool gambled and spent big cash to try and close that gap on the top three spending sides. They failed badly and will now spent the next
few years digging themselves out of a big hole. Arsenal have no excuses. They seem to have everything available to them, including a long term manager, to close the gap, but have gradually fallen behind.

toontony Wrote:

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> At least Liverpool gambled and spent big cash to
> try and close that gap on the top three spending
> sides. They failed badly and will now spent the
> next
> few years digging themselves out of a big hole.
> Arsenal have no excuses. They seem to have
> everything available to them, including a long
> term manager, to close the gap, but have gradually
> fallen behind.


Arsenal also have a new stadium, unfortunately they have had to sell there best players to pay off there debt...