Why have pools and payouts not grown enough?

compare apples with apples

lotto take out provide for charities

what charities do the tote support ?

just their big pockets

Seriously, the last time the take out from the Lotto was accounted for by government was..................never. Maybe you have never heard the term, "Lotto is the poor man's Tax"

Maybe if you took a little time you would find out which charities the Tote does support as well as the employment numbers etc. etc. but this isn't something you want to know as it does not suite your opinion.

Tigershark wrote: Seriously, the last time the take out from the Lotto was accounted for by government was..................never. Maybe you have never heard the term, "Lotto is the poor man's Tax"

Maybe if you took a little time you would find out which charities the Tote does support as well as the employment numbers etc. etc. but this isn't something you want to know as it does not suite your opinion.

I do know that when the Lotto first started people that I know that did not gamble played Lotto as their reasoning or justification - true or false - was that "at least if I lose my money is going to charity" - Also you cant really go to any shopping centre or garage etc and not see the Lotto in your face - Tab cannot compete with outlets as they stand alone and are often in risky areas...

Professional punters or even regular punters have issues with tax taken by bookies and the operators but for me I cannot see Dream Punters having that concern... I ask my soccer mates why they take 10 plus matches instead of taking 2 to increase their chances of winning but the answer is often "I want money not change" - They don't care about the tax or who is getting rich supplying the bets - all they want is a chance to win 100k plus for their R10

Mr h regarding the totes in risky areas

most totes have a bar situated few meters away

when alcohol involved people get faulty and lots of fights break out

most punters I speak don't like that fear , they're not will to risk their safety especially when the drunk guys aware that you have money.

obviously different areas different situations but most totes in my area have bars and fights are regular.

The totes in risky areas can't be used as an excuse these days, OTT and cheap data bundles means online punting is available to us all

Maybe from what you are saying Mr H is there should be an easy all to come on 6 horses offered on the fixed odds so that the punter/player knows upfront that it is R10 000 or R100 000. Make it easy to take and add a bonus.....

Bob Brogan wrote: The totes in risky areas can't be used as an excuse these days, OTT and cheap data bundles means online punting is available to us all

the bookies basically begging punters to bet with them

they're easy to understand

bookies advertise and advise clients about opening accounts

show me one advert how to go about opening a tote account ?

I don't know how the tote works , how to deposit and how to withdraw

I'll stick to the people that's willing to help , like I said the bookies make me feel like a king and every is convenient.

Bob Brogan wrote: The totes in risky areas can't be used as an excuse these days, OTT and cheap data bundles means online punting is available to us all

no bob there are many punters that want to sit and play race by race in the totes - retired people that use the tote as a place to see their friends - these are the people that will be dead in 10 years but have been funding racing for decades - many have zero idea what the internet is -
Let me tell you that there are 2 totes in Benoni - the one is in the middle of town and there are drug dealers on 3 of the 4 corners (no fault of the tote) - I regularly see incidents there with guys fighting because they are high - The other tote is in Actonville - now I went there the other day and there was a knife-wielding looney fighting with some shopkeepers about 300m from the tote - I use the tote for cash bets as I like doing that to maintain dicipline and am never in the tote for longer than say 10 mins per day - -

tigershark

world sports betting R3000 free

Hollywood R9000 free

what does the tote offer ?

Tigershark wrote: Maybe from what you are saying Mr H is there should be an easy all to come on 6 horses offered on the fixed odds so that the punter/player knows upfront that it is R10 000 or R100 000. Make it easy to take and add a bonus.....

I don't know the answer - look I can't understand soccer/sport bettors - They take these huge accumulators - I ask them if they know or have ever seen say a team from Belarus they are including and the answer is no.... They seem to just want to build a dream number as a payout without any real knowledge - I also think Urban Myth has also played a part as many of them know a cousin or distant relative that won "big Money" on the soccer - If that is true or not I have no idea but they seem to believe it can be done - I enjoy my Racing because it's a puzzle and I will look at a race like that even if not having a bet but the new punter(they are new because many many of them have only been in SA for less than 10 years) looks at only the numbers and the possibility of life changing returns...

Agreed Mr H, there certainly can be improvements to the facilities and different simple racing bets offered with fixed odds that are massive for those punters. An all to win bet for R10 at any race meeting on 6 horses would pay big if 4 of the 6 were 5/1-20/1.....

Mr Arrogant, the Tote money actually pays for the racing to be staged although it appears you do not understand that.

Rather ask yourself why the Bookmakers offer these specials? Notwithstanding the fact that they do not pay for the product they host betting on they rely mainly on punters like you to take up the special offer and treat you like a king.