Swinger pools press release Tuesday 1st.

Catterick Race 5.

WN 3 2.00
PL 1 1.00
PL 3 1.00
PL 5 1.10
SW 1-3 1.00
SW 3-5 1.00
SW 1-5 1.00
EX 3-1 6.10
TF 3-1-5 11.70
QT 3-1-5-4 42.60

......shocking....as long as they get their rake ....the punters be damned.....if this is not enough evidence of an absolute cl@ster f@ck....then soon enough there will be hardly any one other than money launderers playing into these pools.....:sick:

Thor wrote: Catterick Race 5.

WN 3 2.00
PL 1 1.00
PL 3 1.00
PL 5 1.10
SW 1-3 1.00
SW 3-5 1.00
SW 1-5 1.00
EX 3-1 6.10
TF 3-1-5 11.70
QT 3-1-5-4 42.60

Thor those tote swingers you mentioned above paid the following on the UK tote:

Tote Swinger £1.10 (1, 3), £1.10 (1, 5), £1.10 (3, 5)

So if the UK swinger pools are commingled, why are the UK punters being paid £1.10 and the SA punters being paid R1.00. End story, it seems that the SA Tote is becomming very greedy and has no concern for the local punter.

MrHorse wrote:
Thor those tote swingers you mentioned above paid the following on the UK tote:

Tote Swinger £1.10 (1, 3), £1.10 (1, 5), £1.10 (3, 5)

So if the UK swinger pools are commingled, why are the UK punters being paid £1.10 and the SA punters being paid R1.00.

Well now - This is an interesting development indeed. It seems that I was too quick to assume that UK participants in the swinger pool were mugs, seems that SA are the only mugs. The tote definitely need to respond to this. Unfortunately the R6 tote punters are going to continue to feed the UK swinger pools regardless of commingling or not, so this doesn't seem to be a priority for the tote to resolve. Silence until now has been deafening.

I noticed the discrepancy between the R1.00 & R1.10 payouts for many years now. This also still occurs with place payouts on UK Racing. It seems like the British tote guarantees a R1.10 payout as a minimum dividend for any type of bet, our tote used to follow suit about 7 years ago or so. I use to include very short priced favorites for a tote place in multiples at the time as it would add a little value at a R1.10 guaranteed payout. Most of the time, a 1/4 horse returns R1.10 for both a win and a place in the UK and every now and then these hotties get beaten and that is when you would score. This didn't last long though, within a year or two, SAFTote got smarter and reduced the payouts for places to R1.00 again. I have noticed that they use the closing pool as a guideline ie. when a horse reflects R1.00 or less than R1.00 for a place in the closed pool on UK Racing, they declare a R1.00 payout and not the UK declared payout of R1.10. A few people have already mentioned that the Tote needs to guarantee at least a R1.10 payout to attract new customers. Why would you want to take a risk as a punter to only get your money back at best? :huh:

Response awaited (1).

.....finally cracked the bigger ones in the UK....are they still co-mingling.....:huh:

Saturday 17 October

AscotW14:46

Bet: SWRace: 2Winning Amount: 71.10Percentage: 3+0%Serial: 88891460368748Runners: 2,5,12/2,4,5,12,14
Saturday 17 Octoberr

AscotW14:45

Bet: SWRace: 2Winning Amount: 528.60Percentage: 2+0%Serial: 41406475019169Runners: 1,17/1,2,4,5,12,14,17

....Brando has been very good to me.....:woohoo: