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1 month 1 day ago #779775 by Mac
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Is Ryan Moore’s strike rate slipping?




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1 month 1 day ago #779792 by Bob Brogan
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Draw not been kind to the top two in the betting

THE SUN MET (Grade 1)

1 11 Do It Again 60 136 A R Fourie Justin Snaith
2 5 Rainbow Bridge 60 134 A R Moore Eric Sands
3 9 Vardy 60 134 A C Zackey Adam Marcus
4 12 Hawwaam 60 131 AM A Marcus Mike de Kock
5 13 One World 60 130 A M Byleveld Vaughan Marshall
6 3 Twist Of Fate 60 129 A A Domeyer Adam Marcus
7 4 Head Honcho 60 126 T A P Strydom Andre Nel
8 6 Undercover Agent 60 124 A C Orffer Brett Crawford
9 2 Bunker Hunt 60 122 A B Fayd'Herbe Justin Snaith
10 1 Eyes Wide Open 60 118 BA W Kennedy Glen Kotzen
11 10 Pack Leader 60 116 A M Winnaar Glen Kotzen
12 8 Roy Had Enough (AUS) 60 115 A S Veale Frank Robinson
13 14 Majestic Mozart 60 107 T A K de Melo Candice Bass-Robinson
14 7 More Magic 60 102 A G Cheyne Candice Bass-Robinson

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1 month 1 day ago - 1 month 1 day ago #779799 by mr hawaii
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Strydom will decide the fate of many horses in the field if he leads and bunches them up - Purely on draws I make Twist Of Fate an e/w chance as Aldo knows all about Head Honcho

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1 month 1 day ago #779802 by bayern
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Betting for the full card is out.

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1 month 22 hours ago #779811 by PeterD
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The factors to consider in finding the Met winner are
1. Ability
2. Distance Suitability
3. Preparation and current form
4. Pace

Ability
All of Hawwaam, Do it Again, Rainbow Bridge, Vardy,, One World, Twist of Fate and maybe Head Honcho are good enough on their day at level weights. On his 3yo form, Eyes Wide Open, and perhaps a horse like Bunker Hunt could still have enough improvement in him.
With Hawwaam one has to be concerned about his temperament and hence I will never back him at a short price because too much can go wrong irrespective of how good he is.
Distance
Hawwaam and Rainbow Bridge in my view are better 2000m than a mile. Do it Again is versatile, and we know he gets the trip. One World in my view is a specialist miler and won’t get the trip in this class. Vardy beat One World and little else in the Winter Classic over 1800m, so is unproven over a hard run 2000m. Var is a source of speed. Even the great miler Variety Club got klapped by the likes of Jackson over 2000m. The dam Cupid, is by Jet Master out of a Badger Land mare, and thus there is some stamina in the pedigree, but neither the dam nor second dam won further than a mile. Both his wins in the Green Point and the Queens Plate have been full of merit against the best milers around, and he came from behind in relatively slow run races, and his turn of foot was decisive. Top milers can , and have, win the Met, but I have doubts about Vardy this trip.
The rest of those mentioned want 2000m
Prep and form
Do it Again has had a poor prep and at this level that is a concern.
Vardy is clearly the form horse. Rainbow Bridge has been a model of consistency and seems to be peaking at the right time. Head Honcho is lightly raced but has had a similar program to last year when running a cracker. One World and Twist of Fate have been very consistent. Hawwaam seems on track despite a poor run in the Queens Plate.
Pace
It is not clear that there is anything in the race that will want to set a good pace. A false run race will favour Vardy despite my view that he may be suspect this trip.
Conclusion
If there is a solid pace, then I like Rainbow Bridge to win with Hawwaam the obvious danger if he behaves. Twist of Fate should be in the first 4.
Exotics these three plus Vardy and Do it Again.
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1 month 21 hours ago #779812 by PeeKay
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vardy is clearly stable elect....so wherever Twist of Fate is... Vardy will be in front of him....that's just the feeling I get

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1 month 20 hours ago #779815 by Bob Brogan
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1 month 19 hours ago #779817 by bayern
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PeeKay wrote: vardy is clearly stable elect....so wherever Twist of Fate is... Vardy will be in front of him....that's just the feeling I get


Also think this is the right one. Has had the best uninterrupted, excuse free prep. They manner in which he won the LQP, suggests he will see out the 2000m, especially if the race is run at a moderate pace. Beaten most of them before, can certainly do it again.

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779852 by Sharky
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I am emptying out on One World, I think we forget how good this horse actually is and what a great Queens Plate run he had... I’m hoping he improves on the 2000m as his female line is packed with staying blood! He is the value at around 16/1... go MJ!

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779860 by The Saint
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Vardy for me.
He started his QP run/finish a bid too early and if held up 50/75 meters longer this time he cant loose' Striker will make him run however.
....One World' Rainbow Bridge and Twist of Fate to follow them home.
5horses quarter box paypay..

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779861 by The Saint
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The Saint wrote: Vardy for me.
He started his QP run/finish a bid too early and if held up 50/75 meters longer this time he cant loose' Striker will make him run however.
....One World' Rainbow Bridge and Twist of Fate to follow them home.
5horses quarter box paypay..

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Almost forgot' then there is Hawaam as well.. so make it 6 horses box quarted for R360 100%

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779873 by PeeKay
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And Do I Again cant be ignored if back to best

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779882 by bayern
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Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote:

Bob Brogan wrote: Does CELTIC SEA stay the Mile? I know she won over a mile at Greyville..


Any horse that can win a wfa GR 1 mile as a 3year old will definitely have no problem in a wfa GR 1 mile as a 4year old no doubt.

The showdown of the season to see who is the champion and the best filly/mare this season ...

CELTIC SEA vs QUEEN SURPREME !!!!!!!


Queen Supreme, take some 16/10 whilst it's still available.

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4 weeks 2 days ago #779883 by Bob Brogan
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Just to wet it


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4 weeks 21 hours ago #779921 by Bob Brogan
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Well there`s a week to go

My early fancies

Joseph Barry
Pure State e/w
Parterre
Silvano`s Pride e/w
Vardy
Gimme One Night

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4 weeks 20 hours ago #779924 by Sweet Coetzee
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Hawaam all the way! Also like Chrome Yellow and Kasimir


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3 weeks 6 days ago #779987 by bayern
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Any competition organisers? Feeling good about my selections:P

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3 weeks 6 days ago #780003 by bayern
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Last question .......... promise.

Anyone heard of any panel discussions being televised, if so, when?

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3 weeks 6 days ago #780006 by PeeKay
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3 weeks 5 days ago #780017 by Bob Brogan
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