Durban July winner?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759707 by Bob Brogan
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Some run from Rainbow Bridge

Scary in fact


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2 months 2 weeks ago #759948 by bayern
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If Hawwaam takes his place ......

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759951 by Dave Scott
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Been asking for weeks ???

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2 months 2 weeks ago #759952 by Sylvester
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MDK yard on record saying Barahin is the july runner

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #760012 by Mac
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Bob Brogan wrote: Some run from Rainbow Bridge

Scary in fact


I’m just an armchair jockey, but I asked myself why Superman went inside in the closing stages when he had lots of real estate in front of him. He should have stayed where he was. (Yes, I am talking from my wallet.)


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2 months 2 weeks ago #760021 by zain
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Bob Brogan wrote: Some run from Rainbow Bridge

Scary in fact


I’m just an armchair jockey, but I asked myself why Superman went inside in the closing stages when he had lots of real estate in front of him. He should have stayed where he was. (Yes, I am talking from my wallet.)


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He tossed a lot of bombs last nyt that guy. Firstly from the draw Bernard had on santa clara. Anton had an advantage coz his horse is a front runner. It's previous run it ran 3rd to santa clara with more weight than santa clara and a better draw, this time level weights and he messed it up again. He probably went to fast, thought he was riding one world or variety club

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760022 by zain
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I knew Rainbow Bridge wouldn't win. Front and Centre next time will smoke Santa Clara from a good draw.

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #760023 by zain
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Cascapedia is a runner
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2 months 2 weeks ago #760050 by Dave Scott
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The ante post markets are still strange considering trainer comments.
HAWWAAM is 5/1 joint fav

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760068 by PeterD
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As things now stand, weights will be

Do it Again MR 125 60kg
Rainbow Bridge 124 59,5
Hawwaam 121 56 max 57 for a 3yo, 2 kg WFA

All the 3yo colts rated below 115 will be under sufferance as min is 53kg.

An interesting one is Oh Susanna, now 118 will carry 56.5

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760148 by Frodo
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PeterD wrote: As things now stand, weights will be

Do it Again MR 125 60kg
Rainbow Bridge 124 59,5
Hawwaam 121 56 max 57 for a 3yo, 2 kg WFA

All the 3yo colts rated below 115 will be under sufferance as min is 53kg.

An interesting one is Oh Susanna, now 118 will carry 56.5


I really doubt that OS will go for the July (although there does not seem to be many other options for her) - imo she was over-rated after her Met win and should be at most 110 - is she was mine I would retire her now before she blots her copybook any further :ohmy:

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760185 by Biggie626
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Anyone know when HEAD HONCHO will have his next start :blink: he last ran on sunmet day and its only 2 months left for the Vodacom Durban July!!

Also if he had to run in the VDJ what weight will he carry?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760189 by Frodo
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Biggie626 wrote: Anyone know when HEAD HONCHO will have his next start :blink: he last ran on sunmet day and its only 2 months left for the Vodacom Durban July!!

Also if he had to run in the VDJ what weight will he carry?


Not sure about his intended prep .... but if Do It Again runs, he will carry the top weight of 60 kg, Head Honcho is rated 3 points / pounds below DIA, which means he will be carry 58.5 kg

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2 months 2 weeks ago #760193 by Biggie626
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Biggie626 wrote: Anyone know when HEAD HONCHO will have his next start :blink: he last ran on sunmet day and its only 2 months left for the Vodacom Durban July!!

Also if he had to run in the VDJ what weight will he carry?


Not sure about his intended prep .... but if Do It Again runs, he will carry the top weight of 60 kg, Head Honcho is rated 3 points / pounds below DIA, which means he will be carry 58.5 kg


Thank you sir!

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #760195 by Biggie626
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If he gets a good draw!! I fancy HEAD HONCHO To win if repeating this run!!
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2 months 2 weeks ago #760204 by PeterD
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PeterD wrote: As things now stand, weights will be

Do it Again MR 125 60kg
Rainbow Bridge 124 59,5
Hawwaam 121 56 max 57 for a 3yo, 2 kg WFA

All the 3yo colts rated below 115 will be under sufferance as min is 53kg.

An interesting one is Oh Susanna, now 118 will carry 56.5


I really doubt that OS will go for the July (although there does not seem to be many other options for her) - imo she was over-rated after her Met win and should be at most 110 - is she was mine I would retire her now before she blots her copybook any further :ohmy:


Bear in mind that she was cut into badly in this year’s Met, and was clearly in need of the run (and 1600m is too short for her) in the Empress Cub.
Ignoring ratings, I think it’s significant that she beat Marinaresco and Last Winter at WFA less sex allowance in her Met, and will meet Do it Again and Rainbow Bridge in the July on just about the same terms. I think that the two she beat in the Met and the two top weights in the July rankings are pretty similar in ability over 2000, so that certainly brings her in with a shout if she comes back to best. Presumably she will retire to stud this year, so nothing to lose to try the July. I’ve had a tickle at 50/1.

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2 months 1 week ago #760763 by bayern
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For a horse that might not run, Hawwaam's odds are being trimmed regardless :-

WSB - 4/1
H/W - 7/2
B/W - 33/10

Wish the stable would confirm, yeah or nay

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