If you were Anton Marcus

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Poll: Who would you ride?

Barahin
1 3.8%
Do It Again
2 7.7%
Hawwaam
9 34.6%
Rainbow Bridge
14 53.8%
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1 week 6 days ago #760268 by Bob Brogan
Bob Brogan created the topic: If you were Anton Marcus
Looks like he’s got the pick from Hawwaam, Do It Again, Rainbow Bridge and Barahin in this years Durban July ( ps it’s only sixty days to go)

Who would you ride?

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1 week 6 days ago #760269 by Dave Scott
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Is Moore coming over ?

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1 week 6 days ago #760271 by Sylvester
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buy my own island.
drink wine
and sleep in my hamock

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1 week 6 days ago #760272 by naresh
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Dave Scott wrote: Is Moore coming over ?


He be riding most probably in Sandown that day.

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1 week 6 days ago - 1 week 6 days ago #760283 by Tigershark
Tigershark replied the topic: If you were Anton Marcus
Personally I would go for the Daily News with Hawwaam, nothing left to prove against older horses except maybe beating his brother in the July to take Horse of the Year. problem with the July is that it is a handicap so not very attractive. That being said, Mike will win the trainers title if he wins the July based on stakes available for the rest of the season.

Anton will no doubt want to ride Hawwaam in the Daily News and July and ride Rainbow Bridge in the Rising Sun and Champions Cup but this would be unlikely as the minute he gives up the ride on Rainbow Bridge in the July he wont get the mount in the Champions Cup.

Maybe the opportunity to get Jeff Lloyd out to ride Rainbow Bridge.....could cause excitement and interest in a race that's losing its shine a bit..... Maybe even to talk to Doug White

Just my opinion, all disclaimers apply :)
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1 week 6 days ago #760284 by Muhtiman
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Tigershark wrote: Personally I would go for the Daily News with Hawwaam, nothing left to prove against older horses except maybe beating his brother in the July to take Horse of the Year. problem with the July is that it is a handicap so not very attractive. That being said, Mike will win the trainers title if he wins the July based on stakes available for the rest of the season.

Anton will no doubt want to ride Hawwaam in the Daily News and July and ride Rainbow Bridge in the Rising Sun and Champions Cup but this would be unlikely as the minute he gives up the ride on Rainbow Bridge in the July he wont get the mount in the Champions Cup.

Just my opinion, all disclaimers apply :)


.....is there not a stiffer handicap penalty for winning the Daily News.....:huh:

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and a higher power is a hell fire missile armed drone.

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1 week 6 days ago #760287 by Tigershark
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That's why I don't rate the July for 3yr olds Muhti unless your going purely for the prize money. Handicap conditions and trainers hiding 4 & 5yr olds coming in with low weights makes it less prestigious for breeding or global rating purposes. I would go so far as to say that whichever older horse wins the July, I would still choose to breed to Hawwaam.

As previously discussed the annual racing program is in need of urgent and constructive changes. We don't need to lose races but better scheduling is needed. We have too many Grade 1 races that are not nationally represented by the best in every region. The Tripple Crown is the only recognised program for 3yr olds..... but I disagree that it is a reflection of the best 3yr old. We are breeding with predominantly speed sires and yet have a Grade1 over 2450m and no other Grade 1 beyond 2200m for all ages in the rest of the program. Dumb if you ask me and simply not relevant considering the factors at play currently.

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1 week 6 days ago #760290 by Sylvester
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Barahin is the July horse this year. MDK May have some other bombs yet to show up.
Hawaaam would be the daily news
Soqrat has had a long season
Adjaat the derby winner
Problem now is the go kart course may prevent us seeing any of them until the summer season in gauteng .

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1 week 6 days ago #760292 by Tigershark
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No reason Hawwaam doesn't go Daily News and July if drawing well, the prize money will clinch the title. De Kock will have no problem supplementing Hawwaam for the July. Soqrat will have the Rising Sun and Champions Cup as his goals.

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1 week 6 days ago #760297 by Bob Brogan
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Top 4 in the ante-post also

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1 week 6 days ago #760313 by bayern
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Muhtiman wrote:

Tigershark wrote: Personally I would go for the Daily News with Hawwaam, nothing left to prove against older horses except maybe beating his brother in the July to take Horse of the Year. problem with the July is that it is a handicap so not very attractive. That being said, Mike will win the trainers title if he wins the July based on stakes available for the rest of the season.

Anton will no doubt want to ride Hawwaam in the Daily News and July and ride Rainbow Bridge in the Rising Sun and Champions Cup but this would be unlikely as the minute he gives up the ride on Rainbow Bridge in the July he wont get the mount in the Champions Cup.

Just my opinion, all disclaimers apply :)


.....is there not a stiffer handicap penalty for winning the Daily News.....:huh:


Better if he wins because he can't carry more than 57.0kgs irrespective of how far he wins by, thereby putting others under even more sufferance - that is the plan, is it not - to maximize every weight advantage your horse can get?

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1 week 5 days ago #760318 by the hawk
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My understanding is that when accepting the ride on Rainbow Bridge in the SunMet, Anton committed to riding RB in all his races through Champions Season, ie The Rising Sun Gold Challenge; the Vodacom Durban July and the WSB Champions Cup - if indeed he accepts for all of these. Michael Rattray purchased RB with a specific mission to win the VDJ, a race which he has never won as an owner. But then again we have seen such agreements/commitments going south before......................

I would think that Anton will definitely ride Hawwaam in the Daily News if MdK decides to go that route. If then, MdK decides to go for the VDJ - a race for which he would be well handicapped - Anton would have a real dilemma on his hands. Hawwaam or Rainbow Bridge??

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1 week 5 days ago #760340 by the hawk
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Not forgetting of course that he actually won last year's VDJ on Do It Again - intriguing!!!

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1 week 5 days ago #760345 by jim
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I'm not sure that gavin larena has been jocked off. He was obliged to ride cascapedia . If there are no slack runners in either the 2000 or July then is it reasonable to assume larena would ride hawaam and marcus would then ride the bridge.

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1 week 5 days ago #760414 by ElvisisKing
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jim wrote: I'm not sure that gavin larena has been jocked off. He was obliged to ride cascapedia . If there are no slack runners in either the 2000 or July then is it reasonable to assume larena would ride hawaam and marcus would then ride the bridge.


Think you're spot on there Jim.

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1 week 5 days ago #760415 by ElvisisKing
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Should Anton take the ride on Hawaam......I'm sure Bernard will be chomping at the bit TRYING to get the ride on RAINBOW.

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1 week 4 days ago #760438 by jim
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bernard was previously rainbows rider was he not?

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