Who will win Vodacom Durban July ?

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Poll: Who will win Vodacom Durban July ? And why?

Hawwaan
8 19.5%
Rainbow bridge
13 31.7%
Do it Again
9 22%
Other
11 26.8%
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2 months 2 weeks ago #762784 by Zietsman Oosthuizen
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Who will win?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762809 by Mac
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If he runs he wins, Hawwaam.


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2 months 2 weeks ago #762814 by bayern
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Mac wrote: If he runs he wins, Hawwaam.


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Hear, hear

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762817 by Mac
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Nowadays, don’t they have to be shipped out BEFORE the July for those who will be relocated to the UAE for the carnival season. If Hawwaam is going to Dubai then I doubt he will run in the July. I did back him y’day to win the July, oh my dear.


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2 months 2 weeks ago #762818 by Karma
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DO IT AGAIN.....

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2 months 2 weeks ago - 2 months 2 weeks ago #762820 by Biggie626
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HEAD HONCHO WILL WIN
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2 months 2 weeks ago #762823 by Craig Pienaar
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This year is gonna be a upset , now to find the winner :blink:

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762824 by Bob Brogan
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Hawwaam will be close to odds on imo if he runs... PS Sportingbet seem to have forgot to adjust after yesterday`s race and Mike de Kock`s comments... They are 11/4, Hollywood 14/10

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762830 by Frodo
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I'm tempted to say 'other' - it is a handicap after all - and although Hawwaam did everything asked of him, I don't think the win yesterday enhances his chances by much - in fact he might go up in the ratings and have to carry 57 :unsure: Then there's the pace - if there is a pace this year, he may struggle to find clear run in a big field - so the value lies with the longer priced runners imo

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762840 by the hawk
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Having attended the Handicapping Roadshow after the races yesterday, I can confirm that Hawwaam's rating has not been changed following his Daily News victory - still set to carry 56kgs in the VDJ.
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2 months 2 weeks ago #762841 by Thor
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the hawk wrote: Having attended the Handicapping Roadshow after the races yesterday, I can confirm that Hawwaam's rating has not been changed following his Daily News victory - still set to carry 56kgs in the VDJ.


Surprising news if this is indeed the case?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762843 by Bob Brogan
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I would reckon The HAWK would know

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762847 by Hurley
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Snaith's filly won her race far more impressively then Hawwaam his race as identified by their times

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762867 by Frodo
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the hawk wrote: Having attended the Handicapping Roadshow after the races yesterday, I can confirm that Hawwaam's rating has not been changed following his Daily News victory - still set to carry 56kgs in the VDJ.


Thanks Graeme - and I assume that Twist of Fate's rating remains the same as well - so he should come in at 54 kg - receiving 2 kgs from Hawwaam; yet is trading at 7x the odds :dry:

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2 months 2 weeks ago #762896 by Bob Brogan
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Twist Of Fate has been my call for months and he ran very well on Saturday (Although i do think Hawwaam toyed with them a bit)

Anyway Fresnaye could get in the race? I think she would run well at the huge odds (150/1)

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2 months 2 weeks ago #763044 by Jackson
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In still with Rainbow bridge

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2 months 2 weeks ago #763057 by Bob Brogan
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All top horses are quirky imo

Doing It Again Would have won the Cape Derby if he hadn`t ersed about in the early stages


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2 months 2 weeks ago #763200 by Zietsman Oosthuizen
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Do it Again - current 125 rating and handsdown the best horse in the country.
I have him running to a 128 in QP and with all his troubles in running in Met still achieved a 124.
If not having traffic problems can win again. Love this track and i expect a very good pace that will suit him very well.
I took lots of wins on a decent price. Should be fav.

Rainbow Bridge - 124 rating currently and getting 0,5kg from Do it Again. I have him running 122 in QP and with the run of the race 125 in Met. Only way he can win is with plenty luck and plenty badluck for others.
I took plenty places to finish in top 6. Now way too short in the betting.

Hawwaan - 121 rating currently nd won all 3 last starts with a handful but how much was still left in that tank? I have him running to 119 , 115 and 116 in his last 3 races ....on that he needs to improve 1 to 3 lengths to match Do it again .... he may well do it but with his head full of rocks , his difficulties in running and the huge crowd July day, i am sitting on the sideline and will give him a standing ovation if he wins . For me way too short and can win without my money and way to many excuses i already can think of if he looses.

Head Honcho - the horse i have plenty money on to run in top 6 at massive odds. Love the c/d and on a shorter straight would have won the Met. He is a strong frontrunner and the best kick at the top of the straight. I will have plenty doubles and trebbles in him for wins and places at any price over 12/1.

Legal Eagle - 116 rating currently and best weighted horse in the race on his QP and Met run. Yes , i believe the July will be his last run and the race he should have won already. Ignore his last 2 runs when i think the plan was to drop his rating with the July in mind. Lyle will definitely ride him cold and if he gets the right gaps can upset them . I took plenty 6/1 a place to run in top 6 . Just like with HH i will take plenty more double and trebbles into him for wins and places with a price over 16/1. ( i started backing him 65/1)

Eyes wide Open - currently 109 but will be 1kg under sufferance but in Met ran to 114 and won grey1900 to 109. I took some nice places to finish top 6 in July. Can win with plenty plenty luck but will be close.

Doublemint- 104 currently and doubtful to make final field if not running a huge race coming weekend. Will be weighted to run from a 111 rating in July if he gets in but he ran to a 117 in the Met. In the grey1900 he fluffed his lines so only a huge run this weekend will get him in. I took some places at big odds (only the price because of doubt he will get in)

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Head Honcho
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2 months 2 weeks ago #763201 by Dave Scott
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Thanks Ziets
As far as punts for first 6 is that not a tote bet and at this stage you dont know your return, or did you take fixed odds with a bookie?

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2 months 2 weeks ago #763206 by Zietsman Oosthuizen
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Dave Scott wrote: Thanks Ziets
As far as punts for first 6 is that not a tote bet and at this stage you dont know your return, or did you take fixed odds with a bookie?



Fixed odds ( i like to know i am getting a fair deal when i put my money down). Crazy to take tote place up to 6 places.... you will be lucky to get maybe 3/1 tote place odds on a 50/1 come the July race where they will have 6 places on the tote again.

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