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On the bench...

chicken n chips wrote: I wonder where the likes of RVP, Mata and Carrick are going to fit into the Man United team?

Man Utd spend like a BILLION Pounds AND still the midfield looks weak to me.

Lets see how they do. I think the CHELSEA team looks really good on paper.

Ballotelli worries me at Liverpool he can be like a Kevin Pietersen impact either rock star or rock bottom

TNaicker wrote: On the bench...

chicken n chips wrote: I wonder where the likes of RVP, Mata and Carrick are going to fit into the Man United team?

C&C

Yes on the bench.
January transfer window is going to be interesting.
Another 2 world class signing to come in.... BUT i see Fletcher and Cleverley out of the club and an "unfit" van Persie, Carrick, Evans/ Smalling on the bench.

My starting line up is as ffg:-

De Gea

Jones.... Blind .... Rojo

Rafael............................ Shaw

Herrera.... Rooney.... Di Maria

Van Persie( when fit).... Falcao

OR if RVP is injured, it should look something like this.

De Gea

Jones.... Blind .... Rojo

Rafael............................... Shaw

Januzaj.....Herrera..... Di Maria

Rooney.... Falcao


I still have to find a place for MATA

Rojo is having great difficulty in obtaining a work permit. The reason given as to why he has not as yet received one is that he had an altercation with a neighbour some years ago and the court case has not been given a date. Weird that the UK Government let hundreds of thousands in who don't work and take off the state yet this bloke will be paying around £45k a week in taxes.

chicken n chips wrote: Rojo is having great difficulty in obtaining a work permit. The reason given as to why he has not as yet received one is that he had an altercation with a neighbour some years ago and the court case has not been given a date. Weird that the UK Government let hundreds of thousands in who don't work and take off the state yet this bloke will be paying around £45k a week in taxes.

Ridiculous. Hopefully will be resolved during the International break

I'm curious what the great debater Engles thinks of Uniteds transfer policy?
It wasn't to long ago that he was mocking Chelski and Man City for spending big.

The fees combined for Angel Di Maria, Ander Herrera, Luke Shaw, Marcos Rojo, Vanja Milinkovic, Daley Blind and the loan fee for Radamel Falcao will total around £150m.

I suppose,you could say Chelsea and City bought big to win titles.Uniteds spending looks out of desperation

davetheflower wrote: I'm curious what the great debater Engles thinks of Uniteds transfer policy?
It wasn't to long ago that he was mocking Chelski and Man City for spending big.

The fees combined for Angel Di Maria, Ander Herrera, Luke Shaw, Marcos Rojo, Vanja Milinkovic, Daley Blind and the loan fee for Radamel Falcao will total around £150m.

I suppose,you could say Chelsea and City bought big to win titles.Uniteds spending looks out of desperation

Engels can respond when he feels up to it.

For me ...it is NOT desperation. It was necessity otherwise United would have had no chance keeping up with the rest. It is for all to see that the youth policy has limitations.

I say this with good grace and honesty. Its good for the PL that United have brought in these huge players as we now have more to talk about and better quality of player to watch. My prediction is that Welbeck will be a success at Arsenal where he will score goals as their type of play suits him.

Cech has decided to stay at Chelsea because he will be the number 1 next season as Cortouis has 2 years left on his contract and will not be extending it as he wants to live in Spain so Chelsea will sell him at the end of the season and that's why Chelsea bought the Reading keeper as when Cech stops in a few years they will have his replacement. One thing about Mourinho is that he thinks well ahead and he has players out of loan who in 2 years will be all good enough to get into the Chelsea team when older players retire or move on.

Dave, once again lol your memory is extremely selective, and if not selective, then just wrong I have never mocked those clubs for spending big, I have simply questioned their "right" to be referred to as big clubs so quickly when they have become "competitive" primarily, if not completely, due to hugely wealthy owners buying the clubs and barely having a care about the amounts they spend. Same could probably have happened at 10, 20 other British clubs. United's money, as you have repeatedly pointed out because of the huge debts the owners have brought with them, comes from the proceeds generated by the football club. Obviously, that is a huge difference. I have also said that any club who turned away owners such as the ones now in place at Chelsea and City would be stupid and it would be equally stupid not to use the money they are prepared to spend, I have never had any issue with that, provided of course that the club doesn't collapse if those owners pulled out tomorrow. But, in that regard, anyone who says to me that they have not bought success I would say was talking out of a drunkard's @rse And yes, I would most definitely say United are trying to buy their way back into being a competitive team again but 1. the money comes from the football club and 2. they had little choice imo and whether you call it desperation or something else, the fact remains that United's squad prior to the spending spree was simply not good enough. I am all for home grown players, youth systems etc but the bar set by City and Chelsea is so high at the moment that you would need the likes of another batch of Giggs, Scholes, Neville etc coming through to have any chance. As CnC says I think Welbeck might do well at Arsenal, he will need to fine tune his finishing skills though, but he was not going to oust RVP or Rooney etc so it was inevitable. These young lads have to be good enough and sadly for the lads that came through most recently, they weren't. Would any of them get a starting position, or even a bench slot, at Chelsea or City. Unlikely imo so if United want to be competitive again it really was the only option currently available to them, even now success is far from guaranteed and VG has a big challenge on his hands. Watch this space still remains my outlook.

oh... and it was me who pointed out to you United's spending when you recently said the owners were not releasing funds for players due to the debt, just another thing you have got wrong lol and I think you will find the figure is more than the one you quoted.

Englander wrote: oh... and it was me who pointed out to you United's spending when you recently said the owners were not releasing funds for players due to the debt, just another thing you have got wrong lol and I think you will find the figure is more than the one you quoted.

Engles,don't worry I get plenty of things wrong,it's my Philophosy to do that..
Just as it's your Philophosy to talk Philosophical and it's Van Gaals Philophosy to say Philophosy

Clubs can spend the money as TV pays plenty. What is obscene is the wages. United front line

RVP £250K a week
Rooney £300K a week
Falcao £265k a week
Di Maria £245k a week

that's over a million pounds a week. I wonder what they pay in NI. Apparently a Liverpool players pay slip was left in a pub some 5 years ago and his NI for the month was over £20k and he was earning around £40k a week. The Tories must be rubbing their hands together as its more money for the coffers.

I think that some of the Chelsea players earn over £200k a week as do 3 Man City players. They say that if you took the top top earners wage out of the equation the average pay is around £35k a week. So not all PL players are flush with cash mind you if I earned £35k a week I would live like a King.