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14 years 2 months ago
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Just been reading that the FBI have virtually shut down the worlds biggest poker sites Pokerstars and Fulltilt,because it is illegal for Americans to gamble online...

So maybe it is prudent to abide by gambling regulations?


ps many the American highstakes poker players has seven figure sums in their accounts,now frozen by the FBI



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I believe the charge is directly related to these site owners allegedly bribing smaller banks to allow transactions from players to be put through as "merchant purchases", as most banks will not allow you to deposit money into a gambling website.

So these guys apparently came up with a plan to charge these deposits as "golf ball purchases" or the like......

Typical American government, wanting to get involved in everything all the people here do.......silly!!!!

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Tommy this is going to hit Vegas bigtime this summer,well the WSOP main event anyway,over 2/3 of the field satted in from these sites last year..

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Absolutely right Bob.....as if Vegas needs another hit :(

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Going to be a long case but looks like the poker sites are going to fight it and not try and deal Watch Video

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21 April 2011 Last updated at 09:50

William Hill revenue and profits boosted by online bets

William Hill has enjoyed the races so far this year, with some success at Cheltenham

Shares in William Hill have jumped 9% after strong growth in online betting helped to boost first-quarter profits.

The bookmaker said operating profit rose 21% and revenue was up 11% from the same period last year.

Betting was higher in its 2,350 retail shops in the UK and Irish Republic. Last week, William Hill said it would move into the US for the first time.

Revenue at its betting shops rose by 8%, compared with a 26% growth in online betting.

"The group has seen excellent growth across the business in the first quarter, enabling the board to remain confident in its expectations for the full year," William Hill said.

The bookmaker banked more than £2m in profits from two races at the Cheltenham festival in one hour.

Sizing Europe's victory over Big Zeb and Master Minded in the Champion Chase meant the group took in more than £1m on that one race.

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18 April 2011 Last updated at 20:08

888 and Bwin shares soar as US betting rivals closed


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US states gamble on online poker
Shares in London-listed online betting firms surged after some big poker websites in the US were shut for alleged illegal activity.

At the close of trading, Bwin were up 30% and 888 up 15% as investors speculated that the US closures would boost their operations.

On Friday, 11 people linked to three major poker sites were charged with offences, including fraud.

The US probe involves three sites: Full Tilt, PokerStars, and Absolute Poker.

Federal US authorities accused the three online poker websites of manipulating banks to process billion of dollars in illegal revenue.

According to Execution Noble analyst Geetanjali Sharma: "The closure of the main competitors' operations and the US legal proceedings initiated against them should benefit European listed operators."

Playtech, another gaming site, also saw its shares jump 11%.

'Criminal fraud scheme'
Prosecutors in New York City on Friday said they had issued restraining orders against more than 75 bank accounts in 14 countries used by the poker companies.

US Attorney Preet Bharara said the sites "concocted an elaborate criminal fraud scheme, alternately tricking some US banks and effectively bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in illegal gambling profits".

The indictment said the three gambling sites did not adhere to the US Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, established in October 2006.

The law makes it illegal for gambling businesses to accept most forms of payment from individuals involved in unlawful internet gambling.

The indictment sought $3bn (£1.8bn) in money laundering penalties and forfeiture from the websites.

The authorities said Absolute Poker had said shortly after the law was enacted that the US Congress had no control over the company's payment transactions.

PokerStars posted a statement to its players on Saturday, saying it had to suspend real money play for customers based in the US.

"Please be assured player balances are safe. There is no cause for concern," the company said.

"For all customers outside the US, it is business as usual."

A message posted on the PokerStars.com website by the FBI said the agency had seized the domain name in connection with the investigation.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12705471


25 March 2011 Last updated at 13:56 S

Online poker: US states gamble on making it legal
By Katie Connolly
BBC News, Washington

Opponents say online poker is a predatory business

Each year, an estimated 10 million Americans participate in an activity that is ostensibly illegal: online poker.

In recent years, the US Congress has done its best to prohibit online poker.

While it has not made online poker an outright criminal activity, it has passed legislation setting up a strict system outlawing financial transactions related to the game.

That has led to a proliferation of offshore gaming sites reaping the benefits of a multi-million dollar industry.

But that might be about to change, if cash-strapped states have anything to say about it.

Moves are afoot in Iowa, Florida, California and Nevada to legalise online poker, in part to help close yawning budget gaps.

In regulating internet poker, state and federal authorities could potentially rake in $3bn (£1.9bn) a year. In Iowa alone, the tax revenue could be in the order of $35m (£22m) per year.

And, proponents argue, they could mandate consumer protections for players, who these days must deal with often shadowy foreign entities in order to play.

But opponents of legalisation are ready for a fight.

'Predatory industry'
Social conservatives generally worry about the effect of easily accessible gambling in the home, particularly its allure for problem gamblers.

They decry the degenerative effect they believe online gambling has on families, with parents spending more time gambling on the sofa than paying attention to their home life.

Andy Bloch, professional poker champion

Online poker helped me fine-tune my game a lot because you play so many more hands and you have a record, a complete hand history, saved on your computer. You can go back and look at your results and study individual hands and identify weaknesses in your game.

Every 10 years or so there is a new wave of poker players. The internet is the newest incarnation. Because in the online world you can play so many hands, you don't have physical tells, and because you can play multiple hands at a time, there are more players who play a much more mechanical game - closer to game theory - than there have been in the past.

The libertarian in me would like to see all online gambling legalised, but online poker is different. The house has no stake in who wins or loses. So the house is going to actually want people to get better and treat it more as entertainment or an educational pastime, not just as a way to try to get money from you.

Their incentive is not to get you to lose. Their incentive is to get you to enjoy playing.

Mr Bloch, an Ultimate Poker Challenge winner, plays online poker several times a week

Les Bernal, executive director of the Stop Predatory Gambling group, sees an unholy alliance between government and the gaming industry.

"It's not like average citizens are calling up the government saying 'we want more places to lose money'," he told the BBC.

"Government, in partnership with the million dollar gambling business, is actively encouraging people to lose money."

He calls gambling "the most predatory industry in America", arguing that the business model depends on addicted or heavily indebted individuals losing large amounts.

"Instead of putting casinos on Main Street, you are essentially putting one into every home office and dorm room in America, 24 hours a day," he said.

But poker enthusiasts across the country tend to make a distinction between poker and other forms of gambling.

Poker is a game of skill and strategy, not a matter of chance like the humble slot machine, they argue.

Poker rewards those who dedicate time to learning the mathematical, social and strategic intricacies of the game, in a way that a roll of the dice does not.

John Pappas, executive director of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), jokes that there is no such thing as the world's greatest lottery player.

He also notes that poker is the only peer-to-peer casino game. Players bet against each other, not the house.

For that reason, he says, the profitability of online poker is not reliant on people losing lots of money in the way that roulette is, for example.

Online sites tend to make their money by taking a small proportion of bets placed. If money is lost, it goes to another player rather than the house.

Mr Pappas also argues that poker is not the sort of quick win or lose game where compulsive or desperate players believe they can place a fast bet and win in a heartbeat.

"Because poker is a game of skill, it is the outcome of the performance of the individual player that determines whether you win or lose," he said.

"Poker players are motivated by patience and skill, not compulsion."

British leadership
Hogwash, says Keith Whyte, executive director of the National Council on Problem Gambling (NCPG).

In his line of work, he says, drawing a distinction between poker and other forms of gambling is "pretty ridiculous".


Jonathan Duhamel won the 2010 World Series of Poker, netting him $8.9m (£5.5m)
"The reason poker is popular, exciting and profitable is because it's gambling," he said.

NCPG is completely neutral on the issue of online poker - in its view, addicted gamblers have a problem regardless of the forum in which they play.

But if online poker is legalised, Mr Whyte sees important opportunities for regulations that could help prevent problem gamblers getting in too deep.

He points to the UK as a leader in policing online gambling for the protection of players. There, sites are required to verify identities, link to help services for addicts and provide support for those services.

Following the British lead, he is lobbying American lawmakers to ensure that regulations mandate things like deposit limits - where a player can specify the amount he or she is willing to spend in a given day or week so they do not get too far into debt - and self-exclusion rules, where an individual can ban him or herself from a site for a period of time.

He also suggests cooling-off periods when players reach their limits, and wants to see protections against fraud and player collusion.

Mr Whyte says there are more opportunities to monitor problem behaviour in online poker than, for example, when somebody walks into a betting agency to wager on horse racing.

Federal action
The PPA is somewhat wary of the push by individual states to legalise online poker.

State-based laws would only legalise games within that state. But for sites to attract players, they need to offer lots of games - hundreds - at all times of the day and night, with different buy-ins and skill levels.

The PPA would prefer national legislation.

Mr Pappas is hopeful that, after several aborted attempts, Congress will act on online poker this year.


Celebrity poker players like Ben Affleck and Don Cheadle have helped boost the game's popularity
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the leading Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, Barney Frank, are leading the charge.

"There's a recognition that the status quo is untenable," Mr Pappas says.

"It's a growing industry, with jobs and revenue and it is all based overseas. To the extent that there are consumer protection issues, there is no US oversight."

But perhaps more important to Mr Pappas is the game's quintessential American-ness. He fears that in shifting from the kitchen table to the computer table, opponents have sullied the game's cultural history.

"Americans watch poker on television. The vast majority have played with their parents, kids or friends," he says. "It's a game that encapsulates the American spirit. It's part of Americana."

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8 January 2011 Last updated at 11:58

Jersey web betting 'boost for economy'

Internet betting would benefit Jersey's economy, the minister with responsibility for economic development has said.

New regulations to manage a locally based e-gaming industry have been published for States approval.

Jersey's gaming industry is currently limited mainly to betting offices.

Senator Alan McLean said allowing gaming websites to be based in Jersey would bring millions of pounds into the economy.

Mr McLean said: "The intentions are to benefit from the considerable economic advantages of having e-gaming.

"It was worth about £50m to the Guernsey economy in 2009, which has increased from 2007 when it was about £7m."

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Legal Gambling in United States

Do you gamble online?
With many online casinos no longer accepting US players you might wonder what all the fuss is about. Or perhaps you’ve heard about the 2006 Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) or the arrests of some prominent CEOs of online sportsbetting companies. So what is the story with online gambling exactly?

First of all, Americans should know that gambling online for real money is legal, but here is the catch – it is not legal to process payments for such transactions, meaning credit card companies and online payment companies can’t process deposits or withdrawals at online casinos.

Currently, the law is not targeting individual players, only financial institutions. A regular player, as things stand right now, can never get in trouble for gambling online, unless they have something to do with the casino or the money exchange company. In fact, no player, and no casino, has ever been prosecuted, only sportsbook owners.

The picture is complicated by several states, such as Louisiana, that have specific legislation for online gambling while the federal government seeks to understand and create policy that deals with issues like underage gambling, money laundering, problem gamblers and…of course taxes.

In the meantime several major online casinos have been severely damaged by the loss of American business, causing stock prices to decline dramatically and reputable casinos and financial firms to pull out of the US market entirely.

NETeller, Citadel Commerce, Central Coin and Nexum have all decided to stop allowing U.S. players to conduct transactions with Internet gambling companies. Playtech, Microgaming, CryptoLogic and Net Entertainment have all pulled out of the US market. There are only a handful of offshore casinos operating online that still accept American bettors, some of which are listed in the USA blackjack casino section.

It may seem odd that a country that boasts the largest gambling mecca in the world, Las Vegas, prohibits the processing of payments related to online gambling. In part, the lack of support and regulation seems to have come from these established land based casinos fearing competition. But like other start-up gambling establishments, such as Mississippi river boats and tribal casinos, there is continued and significant overall growth in the gambling industry throughout each sector. After more than 10 years of online casinos, the established Las Vegas and Atlantic City casinos have not seen a decline or plateau in either patrons or profits.

Instead of drawing current gamblers away from established casino destinations, online casinos seem to be bringing in new audiences and broadening the general appeal of casino gaming. As the online gambling segment continues to grow, numbers range from 6 to 12 billion in revenue internationally for 2005, major players like Harrah’s have begun to investigate the possibility of entering the market…pending the outcome of future studies and legislation of course. The total revenue for US domestic casinos in 2005 was $83.7 billion. Not bad.

For a better understanding of the critical events determining the legality and accessibility of online gambling please refer to the chronology below:

Interstate Wire Act of 1961
An earlier Interstate Wire Act of 1961, often called the Federal Wire Act, was only used to charge businesses, not players, that took sports bets. This lead to a new series of problems for poker and non sports betting. The language of the law was specifically written to prevent betting across state and national lines that would allow businesses to escape the laws and regulations for each state while also keeping betting activities and profits within local borders.

November 2002
The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ruled that the federal wire act is correctly interpreted as prohibiting the transmission of information used in betting across state lines but also affirmed that an earlier ruling by a lower court that did not prohibit internet gambling for ‘games of chance’.

March 2003
Deputy Assistant Attorney General John G. Malcolm testified before the Senate Banking Committee about specific problems presented by the online gambling industry. The primary topic and one of great concern to the US Department of Justice is the question of money laundering, an easy by product of an industry supporting large financial deposits with little or no supervision. The basic premise was that anonymous players and secure financial transaction encryption make online gambling especially suitable for money laundering.

April 2004
Google and Yahoo!, the two largest search engine providers announced that they would no longer accept gambling sites for paid advertising.

April 2005
Yahoo! lightens up a little and allows advertising for “play money” gambling sites.

November 2004
The WTO (World Trade Organization) ruled that the United States was in violation of international law by making it a crime for Americans to place bets with online bookies parked offshore. This was a direct result of the small island nation of Antigua’s complaint that their economy was unfairly harmed by the US laws preventing US players from gambling with businesses located there. The policy was considered protectionist, violating the principals of international treaties regarding fair competition and the WTO took it to court. The case is still pending.

July 2006
David Carruthers the CEO for BetOnSports, a company publicly traded on the London Stock Exchange, was arrested by US authorities when he attempted to switch planes in Texas on his way to Costa Rica. He is currently on house arrest following a million dollar bail bond.

September 2006
Peter Dicks another foreign businessman for SportingBet PLC is detained while in New York after a court in Louisiana, a state that has specific laws regarding internet gambling attempted to have the Chairman extradited to Louisiana. After a month of being detained in New York the warrant was dismissed.

In a last minute add-on to an unrelated amendment the Safe Port Act, known as Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) of 2006 is passed by both the House of Representatives and Senate. This legislation makes transactions from banks or other financial institutions to online gambling sites illegal. Speculation regarding Senate Majority leader, Bill Frist’s motivations for attaching the legislation have ranged from his political ambitions to his conservative religious background.

October 2006
The Safe Port Act and consequently the barring of financial transactions to gambling sites is signed into law by President George W. Bush.

January 2007
Two days after NETeller founders Stephen Lawrence and John LeFebvre were arrested and charged with money laundering NETeller, a global eWallet provider stopped allowing Americans to use its services to transfer money to and from Internet gambling sites.

April 2007
Rep. Barney Frank, a democrat from Massachusetts, introduced the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act (IGREA). IGREA would change UIGEA as passed in 2006 by creating a licensing system that would be governed by the Director of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

June 2007
Rep. Robert Wexler, another Democrat from Florida, introduced the Skill Game Protection Act. This would legalize Internet poker, blackjack, bridge, chess, and other games of skill.

Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington State, introduced the Internet Gambling Tax Act. The IGTA would work to legislate Internet gambling tax collection requirements.

The House of Representatives Financial Services Committee held a hearing with several expert witnesses to decide if internet gambling could be effectively governed to deal with several critical issues including: age verification, state and federal tax collection, money laundering and problem gamblers.

September 2008
Senator Robert Menendez introduces S.3616, the Internet Skill Game Licensing and Control Act to provide for the licensing of online skill game facilities. The act did not pass.

January 2009
Barack Obama is sworn in as US president. His attitude towards online gambling is more open than that of George Bush.

March 2009
Ron Kirk is appointed as US Trade Representative. Kirk promises to take a stand against legislation like the UIGEA that is bad for current trade agreements.

May 2009
Rep. Barney Frank holds a press conference to introduce the Internet Gambling Regulation Consumer Protection & Enforcement Act of 2009, the much-anticipated and much delayed response to the UIGEA.

June 2009
The EU warns the US that the UIGEA breaks international trade agreements, and pressures them to take action to overturn the online gambling ban.

Barney Frank’s Internet Gambling Regulation Consumer Protection & Enforcement Act of 2009 is put on hold for a few months, as the global economic crisis demands more of his time.

October 2009
An analysis by the Joint Committee on Taxation found that the regulation of internet gambling in the United States as proposed by Barney Frank would generate nearly $42 billion over 10 years.

November 2009
The implementation of the UIGEA is delayed for six months, until June 1, 2010. The delay was intended to give the Obama administration more time to come up with a way to regulate online gambling.

December 2009
A hearing on the UIGEA was held by the House Financial Services Committee. It was found that the regulation of online gambling was in the interest of public safety.

June 2010
The UIGEA goes into effect. American banks are prohibited from processing payments to and from online gambling websites. Despite the hype, very little actually changes for players.

July 2010
The House Financial Services Committee passed Barney Frank’s bill, H.R. 2267 by a vote of 41-22-1. The bill would legalize and regulate online poker along with some other forms of internet gambling in the United States.

Today
The current laws have had the effect of moving business away from online gambling to local establishments and bookies, at least temporarily. Judging from the amount of activity currently taking place to understand and recommend legislation for online gambling, it seems as if the House of Representatives guided by Barney Frank and his supporters is moving in a direction that will see the current online gambling ban overturned. The new political atmosphere brought by Obama and his cabinet has brought new hope for US internet gambling laws. But for now, US players will have to play free online blackjack or play with lesser known online gambling sites.

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Online gambling in SA: is it legal?
Jan Vermeulen | 16 March, 2011


Interactive gambling legislation in South Africa may be in limbo until after an appeal to a high court ruling is heard

The National Gambling Amendment Act of 2008, which is said to make provisions for the licensing of online casinos, may only come into force after an appeal to a high court ruling against “interactive gambling” is heard.

Last year a Northern Gauteng High Court ruling made it illegal for online gambling sites such as Piggs Peak and Silver Sands Casino to offer their services in South Africa, even though their servers are hosted outside of the country.

The South African department of trade and industry (DTI) also revealed that penny-auction websites such as Smokoo, Bidchaser, Kooldeals and ViaZiz will soon be considered interactive gambling, making them unable to legally operate in South Africa.

“Having considered the way these auctions are conducted it is now clear that this is similar to gambling and can be regulated under gambling regulations,” the DTI told MyBroadband.

If penny-auctions are considered gambling, then it follows that penny-auction sites like Smokoo fall under the same legal axe as Piggs Peak.

“Any form of online/interactive gambling is illegal in South Africa up until the National Gambling Amendment Act of 2008 comes into effect,” the DTI confirmed.

Online gambling not illegal – just not provided for

This National Gambling Amendment Act adds provisions for the granting of licenses to online casinos, explained Lance Michalson of Micahlsons Attorneys.

“It is not that online gambling is illegal per se, it is just impossible for someone to get a licence to run a legal online casino,” Michalson said.

According to Michalson the Act was signed into law in 2008 and is just waiting promulgation.

Asked about why the law hadn't come in force yet, Michalson said he could only wager a guess. “If I had to guess I would suspect the government is waiting for the outcome of the appeal to the Piggs Peak Poker case as this could have a huge effect on how effective the amendment will be.”

On its website, Piggs Peak states that they have been granted leave to appeal the Northern Gauteng High Court ruling in the Bloemfontein High Court to “finalize the legality of online gambling in South Africa.” The date for the start of the proceedings hasn't been set yet.

Gambling online illegal for SA residents: NGB

Regardless of Piggs Peak's pending appeal, South Africa's National Gambling Board said in a press release that online gambling activities may still not legally operate in South Africa.

According to the NGB, South Africans may also not participate in online gambling, or lotteries organised outside the country, without finding themselves on the wrong side of the law.

“Unlicensed operators are encouraged to use readily available technology and block their domains from being accessed in South Africa,” the NGB continued.

“Unlicensed suppliers of online gambling software and related products to operators who target RSA residents are encouraged to cease operations [development, supply, and maintenance of online gambling software] forthwith.”

The NGB went on to threaten online casinos with potentially being “rendered ineligible for licensing when [online gambling] is legalised in South Africa” if they persist in running services targeted at the South African market without being licensed in South Africa.

In addition to the forfeiture of winnings, the NGB warned that “anyone found guilty and liable under the [National Gambling Act No 7 of 2004] shall be fined R10 million or 10 years imprisonment or both.”

The CEO of the NGB said, “We are working together with law enforcement agencies nationally and internationally in order to find a solution that will protect our people against unscrupulous operators.”

“The NGB assures the public that everything will be done to eradicate online gambling as well as related offences.”

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Official language: Japanese
Population: 127,433,494
Currency: Japanese Yen (JPY)

Current Exchange Rate
1 EUR = 132.66 JPY
1 GBP = 142.29 JPY
1 USD = 89.99 JPY


Gambling in Japan

The laws regarding gambling in Japan are very strict and only a few forms of gambling are currently legal. Since 1907, the only allowed forms of gambling are betting on horse, bicycle, motorboat, and motorcycle racing. Some games, such as mahjong, pachinko, and the lottery are also legal to bet on, since these are considered to be amusements. All other gambling, including online poker and internet casino style games, is illegal in Japan. Players often travel to Macau to gamble at casinos there.

Japan's lottery is very old, and has been around since 1630. Even the lottery was banned for a while starting in 1842. Then in 1945, at the end of World War II, the national lottery was reinstated. It was thought that the revenues made from the lottery would help the rebuilding efforts. When Japan's cities were rebuilt the government decided to keep the lottery intact.

Online Gambling in Japan
Online gambling in Japan is also illegal. The Japanese government does not grant licenses to operate internet gambling websites in the country, and it would like to keep Japanese players from accessing and using foreign internet gambling websites as well. But like most places in the world, players gamble online anyway.

The fact that there are online gambling websites targeting Japanese players that are hosted in other countries makes it hard for the government to control what is going on, because they have no jurisdiction in the places where the sites are located. Players in Japan can use these sites freely. It is best not to play in public venues like internet cafes. Instead, players should use their home computers to access internet gambling websites.

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