Doubel Standards or Error of Judgement

I have been fighting my inner demons deliberating whether or whether not to post and possibly re-open a can of worms ......

Unfortuanately or fortuanately my inner demons have won :

The uproar with regards the AF ride on Saturday was at times comical and resembled a soap opera, initially the post by one of the regulars and then AF himself with his version of events. When I initially saw his ride i thought to myself .... Eish ... somebody is going to be involved but then when you here the explanation offered by AF you realise, hey hold on here maybe what he is saying is true after all he is the professional that is his main source of income and he is also riding for one of the top and influential stables in the country so maybe just maybe he is being sincere and honest in his explanation. We then have the guys attack AF's integrity, his past, his up bringing his demons that he has fought etc, etc and then somehow the reason for his bad ride or lack of judgement was attributed to this ....

Where I am going with all of the above is, when a jockey makes a mistake or error in judgement or does not ride a horse to us professional armchair jockeys requirements are we to immediately assume that the guy is crooked?
I sincerely hope not because then we would be total idiots to continuing with this game, prime examples of mistakes by jockeys in the past few days that I have seen are:
1) Marcus on Sunday on Magnaminous, he dropped the rein from his right hand which resulted in Delpech catching him on the line and winning the race. Should we now label Marcus a cheat and attack he is integrity and past mistakes (if any), NO we should not it was just a mistake.
2) Randolph yesterday on Jaggerbomb (which was heavily fancied) rode a poor race in that he tried to pace it out with the Marcus mount then at the 300 meter mark faded away tamely. Was he crooked in that he rode the horse from the incorrect position, NO he possibly made a mistake.
3) Hatt today on the favourite in the second rode a shocker he only went for the doctor in the last 200 meters or so does that mean he was not trying and was waiting for the winner to come pass him?

So before guys start attacking the jocks just remember not one of us is forced to punt any horse that a jockey you feel is crooked is riding and also when you attack the jockeys integrity and ressurect past hooror stories of the jocks private lives, how does taht impact on there current state of mind and there future money earning prospects.
I have found out it is easier to say something good about somebody and retract it later that to attack and pass poor comments which have a more permanent impact as us humans are just designed like that, we find it hard to forgive peoples lacks of judgement even if it is not true.

Super have you been drinking? Randolph on Jager shat in from the front last time so to pace it was no problem obviously not good enough, Anton dropping reins is racing tough luck , Hatt today horse not good enough should be reclassified as a camel, AF story is completely different so i think you should get back to the drawing boards with your examples JMO

By the way Jagerbomb actually ran an excellent race if you study form first run out maidens and beat the blind school last time!

I thought Anton performed Mirracles when he dropped the reins and was going to mention it as one of his better rides..

I totall agree Hibernia- seems like some guys need new glasses and some training on watching races

BTW what has not riding a horse out got to do with your examples listed Super red? sorry we lost you - Winter Dynasty that is the issue being looked at not for example a race where reigns are dropped and the horse still gets assisted - that is tough luck race riding. Im sorry but you have completely missed it in my opinion

@blue - feedback and your opinion noted.
With regards the examples I listed I was attempting to show that the above can be construed as crookery from some peoples point of view, I for one believe that Marcus is the best jockey in SA and one of the best in the world therefore I used that example to show that by mistakenly dropping the rein he quiet possibly lost the race therefore could that not be constued as cheating in certain circles.
It could be said that Randolph used up to much of the horse up early and gave it no chance and the same for Hatt today, So before you start making comments with regards my sobriety or the need for new eyeware or possibly the need for training remember there is always not only one opinion or side to the story as you have pointed out in your posts.
Back to AF I feel (my opinion) is that he went to early and as per the two previous examples used up to much of the horse therefore creating the panic and need to look around therefore creating the impression he was looking for his mate to come beat him.
In all of that I felt (once again just my opinion) Fourie rode a brilliant race after been slow away and should be applauded for not giving up, same as Delpech did when catchin Marcus on Sunday.

I think what Super Red is talking about is the mob mentality that develops very easily and quickly on forums.What started as a suggested misjudged ride by AF degenerated into anonymous posters converting that into another crooked ride by a habitual drugged up thieving scumbag stealing punters money......that is mob mentality.
What starts as a good natured march ends up with beatings and damage to property.
Super Red is not suggesting that his examples are crooked activities.....on the contrary he is suggesting they may be as innocent a mistake as the original accusations against AF,but with a bit of stirring they could all be deserving of a lynching!
I am afraid that is inevitable for as long as posters remain anonymous.
The day a forum starts,requiring "real" names I'll be there like a shot....I have no problem in debates,even of the heated variety,but not with people who won't put their name to their opinions.
I truly believe it would make threads a lot more responslble,therefore credible,therefore useful.....but thats just me!

(sorry was posting before I saw your latest Red....I was disturbed a few times)

@ Blueyonder
Jagerbomb beat subsequent winners Indian Connection and Pythagorous when winning his maiden ,hardly the blind school and the run before was behind Devine Jet a formline that has produced 9 winners 7 of which were directly out of that race added to this the fact that the Drier yard made no secret of the fact that JB was well fancied to win again
Robs post sums it up perfectly

Another example of this phenomena that amuses me is,because I have for some years felt strongly,that the NHA rules are outdated and not enforced.I started the ball rolling with some posts to see if I could muster up support for a calm sensible list of suggestions for improvement,and to try and interact with them as ,according to Graeme Hawkins,review is on their agenda.
For whatever the reason the participation was virtually non-existent,however now we have one incident where the NHA has appeared to have failed and we now are suggesting a fund of R1m to sue ,to take the matter to the Hague, report them to the CPA....Fark.
Result:No one will do a thing,especially the hysterical ones,and the whole issue of regulation will be ignored until emotions get stirred again.

Rob again your contributions are valid and 100% I am no expert in racing but in industry if we have a finding/problem we always find the "root cause" and fix it before the "finding" can be closed, we can never move on without fixing the actual problem and ensure it does not happen again.

Thats it exactly Dave.If you have a faulty pipe,far better to find the fault and repair timeously without drama than to wait for it to burst and try to find a solution in a panic.
Perhaps when things calm down we can have another attempt to contribute to regulatory issues!