BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 34 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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12 years 10 months ago
The disturbing aspect about this is:
there are two groups of workers from separate unions, with one regarding the other as 'mlungus' and 'sell-outs'!
Should this line of thinking get to grass roots (community) level), we are heading for anarchy!
Such a situation also reflects upon the ANC where there is so much widespread disappointment/dissatisfaction.
Really regrettable that our so much of our vaunted 'democracy' slides into such gross violence and morass!
Similar to other democracies, there are two parties. However, our format and ideologies differ in that both remain race based (as much as anyone attempting to deny such an analysis): the majority blacks and the minority whites who are still deemed to control the economy. We do not have a relevant 'middle' party as sentiments on the ground rule out such associations due to mistrust and lack of knowing one another.
With this scenario, we see black on black violence (the police belong to the black Government).
Is it going to metamorphise into black on white (and others) in the future?
If ever our country needed leadership, it is now; not tenders and jets!
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there are two groups of workers from separate unions, with one regarding the other as 'mlungus' and 'sell-outs'!
Should this line of thinking get to grass roots (community) level), we are heading for anarchy!
Such a situation also reflects upon the ANC where there is so much widespread disappointment/dissatisfaction.
Really regrettable that our so much of our vaunted 'democracy' slides into such gross violence and morass!
Similar to other democracies, there are two parties. However, our format and ideologies differ in that both remain race based (as much as anyone attempting to deny such an analysis): the majority blacks and the minority whites who are still deemed to control the economy. We do not have a relevant 'middle' party as sentiments on the ground rule out such associations due to mistrust and lack of knowing one another.
With this scenario, we see black on black violence (the police belong to the black Government).
Is it going to metamorphise into black on white (and others) in the future?
If ever our country needed leadership, it is now; not tenders and jets!
* regret, without my bifocals, I cannot see very far!
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
12 years 10 months ago
kittycatoo Wrote:
> Gordo, the miners were armed with sticks compared
> to live rounds. Goverment must take the rap. We
> got to stand up as a nation, innocent lives were
> lost.
Didn't King Shakas army who used spears and shields defeat the British army who were carrying guns?
> Gordo, the miners were armed with sticks compared
> to live rounds. Goverment must take the rap. We
> got to stand up as a nation, innocent lives were
> lost.
Didn't King Shakas army who used spears and shields defeat the British army who were carrying guns?
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DISGUSTING... ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING..
The cops are armed to the teeth with armoured vehicles, flack jackets and live rounds and outnumbering the small group of advancing protestors by at least 5 to 1. AND THEY OPEN FIRE WITH LIVE ROUNDS???? On automatic???????????
WHAT A BUNCH OF COWARDS.
IDIOTS. Little boys with guns playing 'I am tough daddy' games. Where the feck do you go into a confrontation with a beret on - EXCEPT IF YOU A FRICKING PIN BRAINED EGO BOY?????
There must have been at least 20 ways of settling this dispute without it coming to this. Both tactically on the ground and by negotiating.
My sympathies go to the protestors. The poor men that break their backs in the mines for the elite and politically connected.
They were slaughtered, these fathers and brothers, without blinking an eye... this is the nature of the beast that is the current Zuma government and its armed forces. Be aware.
The cops are armed to the teeth with armoured vehicles, flack jackets and live rounds and outnumbering the small group of advancing protestors by at least 5 to 1. AND THEY OPEN FIRE WITH LIVE ROUNDS???? On automatic???????????
WHAT A BUNCH OF COWARDS.
IDIOTS. Little boys with guns playing 'I am tough daddy' games. Where the feck do you go into a confrontation with a beret on - EXCEPT IF YOU A FRICKING PIN BRAINED EGO BOY?????
There must have been at least 20 ways of settling this dispute without it coming to this. Both tactically on the ground and by negotiating.
My sympathies go to the protestors. The poor men that break their backs in the mines for the elite and politically connected.
They were slaughtered, these fathers and brothers, without blinking an eye... this is the nature of the beast that is the current Zuma government and its armed forces. Be aware.
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When there are civil uprisings you use minimal force. It is more than likely that elemnts have taken control of these peoples minds and most of them, including their families and dependents, would have preferred them to be alive the next day.
In this case they could have use water cannons and shotguns and maybe even rubber bullets. Tear gas would also have done the trick. Stun guns, ??? hell anything except automatic rifles.
Why did no one think of snipering the fellas that had guns in the crowd? Especially those that retrieved the weapons from fallen police officers? There should have been intelligence on the crowd. The 'trouble' crowd and those just 'angry'.
Why was barb wire not used to control movement of crowd?
These self same 'heroic' SWAT teams with their berets in battle ... killed that elderly crackpot German couple. Sure they never posed any life threatening threat ... but the little boys in their berets must play 'look daddy I got a gun' war games. They are ZUMAS ASSASINS.
Aaaag you know what... it just underlines the half wits that infest this country. Its likes peeing against the Victoria falls... you will never win.. the cranium is too thick for any sense to penetrate
In this case they could have use water cannons and shotguns and maybe even rubber bullets. Tear gas would also have done the trick. Stun guns, ??? hell anything except automatic rifles.
Why did no one think of snipering the fellas that had guns in the crowd? Especially those that retrieved the weapons from fallen police officers? There should have been intelligence on the crowd. The 'trouble' crowd and those just 'angry'.
Why was barb wire not used to control movement of crowd?
These self same 'heroic' SWAT teams with their berets in battle ... killed that elderly crackpot German couple. Sure they never posed any life threatening threat ... but the little boys in their berets must play 'look daddy I got a gun' war games. They are ZUMAS ASSASINS.
Aaaag you know what... it just underlines the half wits that infest this country. Its likes peeing against the Victoria falls... you will never win.. the cranium is too thick for any sense to penetrate
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
12 years 10 months ago
I have just heard the live feedback from police on Sky news, the bottom line is that they are saying they had no choice
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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Everyone has the right to protest
This right does not extend to human life and property
We saw it in London and now we see it here.
I supprt the actions of SAPS 10000000%
As Billy Connoly say's " before you walk in another mans shoes, its best to take yours off 1st"
Just saw the police commisioner on SKY, her account of matters might be a bit lobsided BUT its NOT
completely lobsided. You wanna protest peacefully you DONT need a panga!!!! you need a plackard
This right does not extend to human life and property
We saw it in London and now we see it here.
I supprt the actions of SAPS 10000000%
As Billy Connoly say's " before you walk in another mans shoes, its best to take yours off 1st"
Just saw the police commisioner on SKY, her account of matters might be a bit lobsided BUT its NOT
completely lobsided. You wanna protest peacefully you DONT need a panga!!!! you need a plackard
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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If I was commander and some IDIOT troop of mine arrived with dark glasses I would personally punch him out.
What idiots. No discipline.
Half the guys are retreating to the sound of their own gun fire... just shows you how bang gat they are...
I hope they sleep well at night.. with the vision of gunning down some man armed with a knob kirrie or panga. Shoot the oke in the leg man!!! Flip. There must have been 50 guns and 10 charging strikers.
Life is not this cheap... or is it?
What idiots. No discipline.
Half the guys are retreating to the sound of their own gun fire... just shows you how bang gat they are...
I hope they sleep well at night.. with the vision of gunning down some man armed with a knob kirrie or panga. Shoot the oke in the leg man!!! Flip. There must have been 50 guns and 10 charging strikers.
Life is not this cheap... or is it?
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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Avanza not sure not sure what video you were watching that had 10 charging strikers...FFS 30 were killed ....if you want to make a point at least get your facts right
Give everything but up!
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avanza, understandably you are upset with what has happened.
However the police are well with in their rights... video's available show police picking up and removing firearms from where the strikers were on the ground.
if you were in that situation and the group of protesters were advancing on you (after hacking 2 of your collegues to death) what would you do?
Sorry if i come across as harsh... But you play with fire you get burnt.
However the police are well with in their rights... video's available show police picking up and removing firearms from where the strikers were on the ground.
if you were in that situation and the group of protesters were advancing on you (after hacking 2 of your collegues to death) what would you do?
Sorry if i come across as harsh... But you play with fire you get burnt.
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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DuncanR Wrote:
> avanza, understandably you are upset with what has
> happened.
> However the police are well with in their
> rights... video's available show police picking up
> and removing firearms from where the strikers were
> on the ground.
> if you were in that situation and the group of
> protesters were advancing on you (after hacking 2
> of your collegues to death) what would you do?
>
> Sorry if i come across as harsh... But you play
> with fire you get burnt.
absolutely 100% correct (tu)
> avanza, understandably you are upset with what has
> happened.
> However the police are well with in their
> rights... video's available show police picking up
> and removing firearms from where the strikers were
> on the ground.
> if you were in that situation and the group of
> protesters were advancing on you (after hacking 2
> of your collegues to death) what would you do?
>
> Sorry if i come across as harsh... But you play
> with fire you get burnt.
absolutely 100% correct (tu)
Give everything but up!
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
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What the media fail to report on is that the two police officers killed this week were hacked to death with pangas and axes and that a 3rd officer is still fighting for his life in hospital.So investigate that first before they start with their blame games.
The police fired teargas and then used a water cannon to disperse the strikers, who then retaliated by firing live ammunition at the police.So the miners started shooting live bullets at police.That's why the police fired back.
The police fired teargas and then used a water cannon to disperse the strikers, who then retaliated by firing live ammunition at the police.So the miners started shooting live bullets at police.That's why the police fired back.
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Re: Re: BREAKING NEWS ANOTHER 12 MINE WORKERS KILLED @ MARIKANA
12 years 10 months ago
OFFICAL 34 WORKERS KILLED
PRES. ZUMA JUST ANNOUNCED A COMMISSION OF EN QUERY
MAYBE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT
PRES. ZUMA JUST ANNOUNCED A COMMISSION OF EN QUERY
MAYBE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT
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