Kenilworth 7th November

Rob F I did my phucking money in the race if the truth be told more than i could afford to and have to listen to your bullsh!t WTF believe what you will...I don't have to convince you or anyone else on this site of anything different, maybe your devious way of thinking would lead you to believe that this was the case..anyway I do not need the continued abuse that prevails on this site from brainless anon's and pocket mumbling idiots such as yourself....

Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:

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> This country and its stipes are a bunch of comedic
> idiots!!!
>
> What an abject joke that objection was!


Was there a need for an objection?

Just needed a single replay to decide who the winner was, no brainier, inside horse won WITH interference, I guess Karl has a lot to answer to his paymasters.

Stripes were probably waiting for the bookies call before responding.....bookies probably had to save face by giving the stripes the go ahead to give The 3 as winner.

VERY TRANSPARENT GAME, IS HORSE RACING.

Titch Wrote:

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> Rob F I did my phucking money in the race if the
> truth be told more than i could afford to and have
> to listen to your bullsh!t WTF believe what you
> will...I don't have to convince you or anyone else
> on this site of anything different, maybe your
> devious way of thinking would lead you to believe
> that this was the case..anyway I do not need the
> continued abuse that prevails on this site from
> brainless anon's and pocket mumbling idiots such
> as yourself....


Titch,you pointed out that you were the one "in the know" and corrected Kittycatoo's post..........I have suggested before that in your fantasy world you think you get the lowdown......................there is plenty evidence that your naivety is used to disseminate the bullshit.........(they never pick a bright bloke....lol.)............................as they say.."if you can't spot the sucker,its probably you"
Have you ever seen a whip used so much on a horse having an "easy" FFS?....watch the replay

And BTW,remember me ..we had this discussion before ......I am not anon ......my colours are in the name of RS Faux.

Nice one Rob, I think Karl,was under the same impression as Cape Royal was ridden with the hands until the latter stages when he realised Glen was throwing the kitchen sink at Happy, it was too late however

Rob... I am NOT saying you are wrong but 1. I like Titch and I like his input here, we can all take his words or leave them as we please, if you chose to listen to the message you thought was being conveyed but have that opinion of him then... :S and 2. Surely if him and AF or whoever wanted to collude they would do it on a much bigger priced horse than one under 2/1?? I see no benefit in Titch's post price-wise, the claims or whatever had already happened. I guess we can read what we want to into posts, its part of the problem with a forum, but I never read "gentle ride" in what either Titch or AF said, more they wanted to see it home in one piece, which is not to me saying they won't try and win if the opportunity is there to do so. Furthermore, a few posters on here seem to think Cape R should have been home n hosed but for its jockey so maybe thats where the questions and answers really should be directed?

Englander Wrote:

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> Rob... I am NOT saying you are wrong but 1. I like
> Titch and I like his input here, we can all take
> his words or leave them as we please, if you chose
> not to listen to the message you thought was being
> conveyed but have that opinion of him then... :S
> and 2. Surely if him and AF or whoever wanted to
> collude they would do it on a much bigger priced
> horse than one under 2/1?? I see no benefit in
> Titch's post price-wise, the claims or whatever
> had already happened. I guess we can read what we
> want to into posts, its part of the problem with a
> forum, but I never read "gentle ride" in what
> either Titch or AF said, more they wanted to see
> it home in one piece, which is not to me saying
> they won't try and win if the opportunity is there
> to do so. Furthermore, a few posters on here seem
> to think Cape R should have been homed n hosed but
> for its jockey so maybe thats where the questions
> and answers really should be directed?

Englander, (tu)

rob faux Wrote:

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> And BTW,remember me ..we had this discussion
> before ......I am not anon ......my colours are in
> the name of RS Faux.


I am no longer going to debate this subject or any other for that matter but just to put the record straight,what I said was Anons AND pocket mumblers such as yourself which would indicate that you fell into the latter and not the former but as is the case with most your posts you choose to see things in a way that suits your argument...as far as my quote regarding Kitty's statement goes i said that no way would it start shorter than the 12/10 that was on offer yesterday and it never did, in fact 22/10 was traded on interbet, the horse opened 2 or 3/1 and was claimed so if it was the "right" money that shortened it and the stable was on then why would I try put anyone off the horse and open myself to the abuse that would come???
contrary to what you may believe i would like to see every punter win every day of the week, it is well documented that i am totally anti bookie in all possible ways...A few weeks ago Rainbow Dash ran and I made it quite clear to anyone who would listen that it was fancied and got into an argument with a few "anons" that were claiming graft..the horse drifted back out time of race and came back on it's own..today the horse wins on an objection and all of a sudden i am, at worst a cnut for trying to middle people or at best an idiot that is being used to disseminate misinformation..I trust my friends and know without a doubt that Andy told me his thoughts in good faith and that he NEVER had R1 on the horse, there was a very very lucrative offer for the horse knocked back by the connections before he went wrong which happened in his last start and with him just pulling up sound today the offer would still be available irrespective of where the horse ran so there was no need to back the horse as there was already plenty riding on him just to pull up sound....
Just had a look at my WOS account and horses like British Banker, Rainbow Dash,Butterfly Girl and That's Our Girl to name a few helped make October a fair month and dispels your "in the middle" theory not that i need reassuring...It would seem that ones character here is judged not by intent but purely on results and the ever increasing shallow folk that profit when things go right but just cant wait to hurl abuse and accusations when they dont have just got a bit too much, fortunately I have the choice to remain and take it or move on......

I think everyone and he's dog was on Cape Royal and the only reason i played was
connections thought Happy Forever would come on for the run,It probably will be spot on regarding fitness
next time it visits the track,but its obvioiusly good enough to win that race despite not being 100% fit.
Would Cape Royal have won with a more vigorous ride? Maybe.
Would i back Cape Royal in a rematch? No
Would Titch post misleading info? No
Was the amendment correct? yes.
When a horse is not 100% fit but has ability it can get away with it over sprint distances.

I don't for one minute think that Titch would post misleading info intentionally,nor did I suggest he did.............but misleading info is often imparted to persons who love to share with anyone who will listen...........Titch is a well known poster who shares?????
You will notice I suggested he may be naive,not dishonest.

Thanks for clearing that Rob. I have respect for both Titch and yourself and hold you both in high regards... I agree that we cannot always concur, I just feel that sometimes we respond too soon and then over react or offend others. (well I do!)
It's for this reason that I also appreciate Englander, Gregbucks, Magi and Dave the River:D (and others who I cannot remember right now, not forgetting Scotia and Hibs) for helping to pacify and maintain the peace. (or clear the air!)

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> Thanks for clearing that Rob. I have respect for
> both Titch and yourself and hold you both in high
> regards... I agree that we cannot always concur, I
> just feel that sometimes we respond too soon and
> then over react or offend others. (well I do!)
> It's for this reason that I also appreciate
> Englander, Gregbucks, Magi and Dave the River:D
> (and others who I cannot remember right now, not
> forgetting Scotia and Hibs) for helping to pacify
> and maintain the peace. (or clear the air!)


Dont you mean The Raver

My misspent youth, doing the cryptic crossword with a Pom who was a type of mentor to me. The main flower in England...the Thames: