What's to like about Wagner:S

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> > > Tell me what you like or don't about Count
> > Dubois
> > > covering Summer Passion,
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> > This mating is workable but not the
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> > good way to upgrade or step up and if you get a
> > filly you always can again breed and
> build.....a
> > total step up and complete make over would be
> > ........Pathfork
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> Thanks Muti, looked at Pathfork but prefer CD for
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> Mr Prospector line - Count du Bois (this is a
> very, very interesting mating
> as bar from Mr P, this stallion brings in
>               2 lines of Northern Dancer,
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> interesting inbreeding, including to Bold Ruler
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>               to the half brothers
> Secretariat and Sir Gaylord.
> Also, just as interesting, this mare is
>               distantly related to Count
> du Bois through her
> dam line so progeny would be inbred 6x5 to No
>               Angel).
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> Next year a booking to Oratorio is on the cards.

Your reasoning for CD is correct but the result is incomplete and thus a step up going the M3P route
.....Captain Al mares look to take to Mr P so nothing wrong....and if you get a filly which I hope for then look at layering Danzig/Danehill influence there after....takes generations to get a better ped picture.....

MUHTI....you deserve a bells,and would been nice to have a chat over a braaivleisvuurtjie with you,we share the passion about pedigrees although you know much more than me:)-D

Ziets .....these things make less sense when whisky and braai fires are involved........Teamwild........never rated Oratorio until they sent him here.......at last we have a sire that will go well with mares that have all that Badger Land influence ......

Impressive! Judpot’s first runner Lady Morgana makes it look oh so easy (not the subject title of the thread but the guys are talking about bloodlines).

www.sportingpost.co.za/2012/12/05/breeding/judpot-first-winner/

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> Impressive! Judpot’s first runner Lady Morgana
> makes it look oh so easy

Yes Mac , it is related to the subject.........the spiel on BR influence expands to this type of ped too......Lady Morgana lacks the multiples of BR but a BR X Mr P X ND + Danzig and adding the right Nureyev make a good ped picture too.......

oh so confusing...

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> oh so confusing...

Even worse with whisky.....:S....but knowing how to peel a ped could be the difference between owning a real race horse and a dud....or punting an improver or doing your life on a dog.....

Muhtiman Wrote:

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> > oh so confusing...
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> Even worse with whisky.....:S....but knowing how
> to peel a ped could be the difference between
> owning a real race horse and a dud....or punting
> an improver or doing your life on a dog.....


85% of people are confused and on whiskey then Muhti .... as are 90% of breeders it would appear :S

Magi Wrote:
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> 85% of people are confused and on whiskey then
> Muhti .... as are 90% of breeders it would appear
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Our local breeders are getting better as more planned matings are becoming evidend.....however breeding in general......... still remains a numbers game....where choice stallions are targeted with huge books of ill suited mares in the hope that at least 10% will take and be stakes winners.......this is where 90% of less hopeful horses land up battling because they did not fit correctly with the sire...