Inquiry in Cape Town

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8 years 4 months ago
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Over the Air wrote: Before anyone mouths off, let me remind you of a famous race where a reserve runner beat a triple crown seeker. The horse was Kournikova.

Aaaaah, not sure about that race but Kournikova was one of two to have beaten Ipi Tombe.

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Racing needs to take the rules and regulations seriously ......the more rules that are not enforced the more the rules are treated with contempt.....its a catch 22 and not good for the game!

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Asked some questions and found there is a rule.
Asked why they would scratch late and it turns out that the favourite{the winner}
in the same ownership drew wide They were looking for an advantage
so the came in 1 position.
Not a nice move by the owner of the sales company that's takes the money to supplement the stake
I guess the for some that's all the counts ie the money
Now they have broken the rule lats see is they get slapped on the wrist

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Mac wrote:
Over the Air wrote: Before anyone mouths off, let me remind you of a famous race where a reserve runner beat a triple crown seeker. The horse was Kournikova.

Aaaaah, not sure about that race but Kournikova was one of two to have beaten Ipi Tombe.

Kournikova won the first leg of the Triple Tiara and it did beat Ipi Tombe who was having her first run in South Africa. Ipi Tombe then won the second leg but never ran in the Oaks.

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naresh wrote:
Mac wrote:
Over the Air wrote: Before anyone mouths off, let me remind you of a famous race where a reserve runner beat a triple crown seeker. The horse was Kournikova.

Aaaaah, not sure about that race but Kournikova was one of two to have beaten Ipi Tombe.

Kournikova won the first leg of the Triple Tiara and it did beat Ipi Tombe who was having her first run in South Africa. Ipi Tombe then won the second leg but never ran in the Oaks.

I hate it when people allow facts to mess up a good story :lol:
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elmer wrote: Asked some questions and found there is a rule.
Asked why they would scratch late and it turns out that the favourite{the winner}
in the same ownership drew wide They were looking for an advantage
so the came in 1 position.
Not a nice move by the owner of the sales company that's takes the money to supplement the stake
I guess the for some that's all the counts ie the money
Now they have broken the rule lats see is they get slapped on the wrist
Bit of an expensive way to get to draw 10 rather than 11...???
Give everything but up!
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Over the Air wrote:
naresh wrote:
Mac wrote:
Over the Air wrote: Before anyone mouths off, let me remind you of a famous race where a reserve runner beat a triple crown seeker. The horse was Kournikova.

Aaaaah, not sure about that race but Kournikova was one of two to have beaten Ipi Tombe.

Kournikova won the first leg of the Triple Tiara and it did beat Ipi Tombe who was having her first run in South Africa. Ipi Tombe then won the second leg but never ran in the Oaks.

I hate it when people allow facts to mess up a good story :lol:

Those was my young adult memories, nostalgic but racing was dying by then in 2002. I remember in the 1990s a horse called Hainan Dao was an emergency acceptor who won the Clairewood Gold Vase beating Fire Arch. The Claiwood Gold Vase was the last feature race of the Natal Winter Season which was run in the last Saturday in August. Also in August was the Gold Cup and one week later the now defunct Champion Stakes. I love to saviour those memories again. We are the last of a generation....

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Joking aside, I stand by my comments regarding Brugman doing the right thing for his boss. Why risk a 3 million plus 1st prize by allowing a threat to run. I see Crawford horse had won its last 2 starts and could have been anything. A business decision was made. He will at worst receive a small fine and that illustrates the total manipulation of the system as highlighted by zsusanna in her post.

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Re: Inquiry in Cape Town - Hainan Dao

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naresh wrote:
Over the Air wrote:
naresh wrote:
Mac wrote:
Over the Air wrote: Before anyone mouths off, let me remind you of a famous race where a reserve runner beat a triple crown seeker. The horse was Kournikova.

Aaaaah, not sure about that race but Kournikova was one of two to have beaten Ipi Tombe.

Kournikova won the first leg of the Triple Tiara and it did beat Ipi Tombe who was having her first run in South Africa. Ipi Tombe then won the second leg but never ran in the Oaks.

I hate it when people allow facts to mess up a good story :lol:

Those was my young adult memories, nostalgic but racing was dying by then in 2002. I remember in the 1990s a horse called Hainan Dao was an emergency acceptor who won the Clairwood Gold Vase beating Fire Arch. The Clairwood Gold Vase was the last feature race of the Natal Winter Season which was run in the last Saturday in August. Also in August was the Gold Cup and one week later the now defunct Champion Stakes. I love to saviour those memories again. We are the last of a generation....

Courtesy Sportingpost

www.sportingpost.co.za/2020/05/gr2-premiers-gold-vase-1994/

Patrick Labuschagne and Peter Dillon are fondly remembered charismatic personalities of the recent yesteryear. The duo teamed up to pull off what is surely one of the great interprovincial raiding assaults in the past thirty years of feature racing in this country.

1994 Gold Vase
1994 Gold Vase – Hainan Dao pips Fire Arch

Clairwood Park was the scene of a remarkable run by the Cape-based On Stage gelding Hainan Dao in the 2 400m Gr2 Premier’s Gold Vase on 27 August 1994.

A first emergency acceptor for the race, Hainan Dao secured a run a little more than 24 hours before the event after the late defection of Zimbabwean entry San Vito.

After a frantic float trip from Cape Town, trainer Pat Labuschagne and his charge arrived at Clairwood Park only a few hours before the race.

Hainan Dao inherited San Vito’s jockey Peter Dillon and, none the worse for the long haul, moved up smoothly in the straight to take over from the pace-making Royal Voyager inside the final 100m.

He held off a late rally from the hot favourite Fire Arch (NZ) to win by a head with Art de Vivre third. The winner paid R48 the win.

Watch the replay here – courtesy of Byron Forster

The race also produced an objection against pace-setting Royal Voyager, who was fourth across the line.

Shifting in from the whip in the closing stages, Royal Voyager was responsible for a chain reaction which saw Double d’Or, Flaming Axe, Conman and Spring Hill all running into trouble.

With the objection upheld and Royal Voyager demoted to last, Spring Hill was moved to fourth and Double d’Or fifth.

Has there been a more inspired interprovincial raid in the past thirty years?

Courtesy Byron Forster Youtube Channel

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