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WIMPS

2 months 3 weeks ago
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Jockey A Fortune was charged with a contravention of Rule 62.2.3 in that he failed to ride TENANGO out to the 
end of the race to the satisfaction of the Stipendiary Stewards. Jockey A Fortune signed an Admission of Guilt 
and was given a warning.
In determining penalty, the Stewards were satisfied that Jockey A Fortune had not prejudiced his chances of 
obtaining a better position



The Billy Bowlegs ride race 9 was stinking as well! Maybe returning jocks must go for a refresher course at the academy?

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2 months 3 weeks ago
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Find it difficult to understand how they can decide Fortune did not prejudice his chances of obtaining a better position - maybe if ridden out to the line, he would have won. In the commentary or post race talk, it was mentioned maybe Fortune misjudged where the "actual" finish post was. What was the official winning distance, a neck, if that.

I have a different adjective for these wimps.
Guessing has never been widely acclaimed as a good gambling strategy.
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2 months 3 weeks ago
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Commentator also seemed to not know where finish line was. Made it much closer than it really was.
Seems like the stipes don't want to interfere with the Fortune Fairy Tale. If an appie did that they would hang him out to dry.

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Re: WIMPS

2 months 3 weeks ago
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How does the lay person interpret the above Stipes Report after watching the replay?

Fortune is winning the race and then in the last 2-3 strides looks right twice, drops his hands and is beaten by a short head. This is what I as a lay person can see, however the report is telling me that the horse could not have won and the jockey did everything to assist the horse in winning. I wonder if the owner and trainer agreed with this report or the punters that had this horse as a banker in their bet? For the record, i did not have a cent on this horse.

The NHA is tired of the public taking pot shots at them and for the constant criticism. This has to be because the public just won't agree with their rulings and trust that they know best and to question any of their rulings is an insult. However, the above report is just another example of a total contradiction between what the public is watching and what they are being told happened.

The fact that this is the first warning Fortune has received for dropping his hands since he has started riding again is a disgrace as it is not his first infringement of this rule since returning. I invite anyone to please prove me wrong. The problem with any Governing body is when they choose to rule subjectively rather than objectively and I half sympathize with the jockey's because they get away with what ever they can.

In conclusion, the above report confirms that a jockey can drop their hands and fail to ride their mount to the line and the stipes can decide if the horse would have won or not. The jockey may get a warning or fine if they could have done better, ruled subjectively of course.

The current state of affairs is sad and disgraceful. 

 

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2 months 3 weeks ago
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Jannie, Sannie... Wat maak julle...Ons n@@i ma.
Solank julle nie rook nie...
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Re: WIMPS

2 months 3 weeks ago
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Jockey A Fortune was charged with a contravention of Rule 62.2.3 in that he failed to ride TENANGO out to the 
end of the race to the satisfaction of the Stipendiary Stewards. Jockey A Fortune signed an Admission of Guilt 
and was given a warning.
In determining penalty, the Stewards were satisfied that Jockey A Fortune had not prejudiced his chances of 
obtaining a better position



The Billy Bowlegs ride race 9 was stinking as well! Maybe returning jocks must go for a refresher course at the academy?
 
Actually not a bad idea...A thousand lines...I must obey the rules
Along with 20 qualifying rides...

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2 months 3 weeks ago
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That is a joke ! 

A warning for dropping your hands! Who are the stipes to say the horse wouldn't have won had it been ridden out to the line ? I didn't back the horse by the way but watched the race and it was obvious. 

Whilst I like Fortune and think he is a character and good for racing , if he does wrong he must be punished. End of. 
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2 months 3 weeks ago
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The time has long passed to rid the NHA of the optically challenged...I for one would like objection rules changed back to hard and fast rules...I am also for punishment of riders who don't ride professionally when their horses are out of the money and going for runs...I am also for riding instructions being recorded before a race and used as evidence where foul play is suspected....I also feel that when a rider causes interference and is allowed to keep the race then his stakes and riding fee should be forfeit ...imagine how careful Van Niekerk would have been knowing he could lose his stakes claim of 250k plus....if the NHA want money let them forget about whip fines and rather fine for interference and unprofessional(or crook) rides...hit these jocks hard in the pocket and they will learn...
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2 months 3 weeks ago
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Isn't it amazing, we are all on the same page here! The racing experience of the above members is way  more than most in charge.  But will they listen? Oh no! So the industry is in tatters and punters have left in their droves, just look attote pools declining. Most threads here are constructive  criticism,
Saturday and Sundays racing were littered with broken rules or just plain injustices,  as they are week in and week out. It's horrible!!!
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2 months 3 weeks ago
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Whilst I don't agree with a jockey dropping his hands and not riding out unless he feels something amiss and does it to protect the horse , I for one thought that the favourite was beaten when fortune stopped riding but the rules are the rules and he should have been given more than a don't do it again 
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Re: WIMPS

2 months 3 weeks ago
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It can be bad news at times 
Think this jock mixed up finishing post 📫 🤔 

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2 months 3 weeks ago
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There was drama in the opening maiden hurdle when Walk On The Beach, the 4-7 favourite, passed the post in front but was controversially demoted to second in the stewards' room for causing interference on two separate occasions up the home straight. The Gavin Cromwell-trained  Glenashling  was awarded the race.

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