Who's going to win the Melbourne Cup? :)

Some would say Sangster won one less Derby than he should. Remember El Gran Senor? I'm guessing that he won 3 of the Epsom variety? It is a guess, though.

Some news and stories off the net for the Melbourne Cup:

NIWOT - an impressive winner of today's (Sat 29/10!!) Lexus. Now a winner without a penalty and carrying 51kg. Trained by John Hawkes.

SANGSTER - as mentioned by Scotia, won the Vic Derby (today again!!) after taking an early lead and just managed to hold on.

TULLAMORE - Gai Waterhouse doesn't seem to be overly enthused. ??. Said this week how disappointing it was that the Australian breeders have lost the plot and desire to breed stayers. (Strange. "Is So You Think" Aus bred?).

DUNADEN - 2nd fav; like Americain last year, was an easy winner in the Geelong Cup last month; Delzangles the trainer "Dunaden has beaten Americain every time". (Not sure how many times though.) It seems that the current riding engagements may have to change following a disciplinary to the original jock.

AMERICAIN - fav; brilliant/impressive winner of the Moonee Valley Cup but apparently a little useless in Europe.

JUKEBOX JURY - A European horse unraced in Australia and has better form than Americain. ?? (not exactly sure of what is "better form").

GLASS HARMONIUM - an impressive winner by making every post a winning one in todays (!!) Mackinnon Stakes. He has booked his place in the final field but the connections are not sure about going for it.

E&OE !!

Txs Mac

Magic, I remember The Minstrel winning with Piggott and the famous silks, I have a picture. El Gran won the Irish derby for him

Here is the painting Magic

And did Turncoat win some sort of a derby here?

I remember the "wee" horse but not sure it was Sangster someone else had similar colours here Basil Hertzov???rings a bell but Magic should put us right

42 yes 42 meetings in Australia on Tuesday

Latest news in bold for the Melbourne Cup:
Final field announced last night.

NIWOT-16/1- a son of Galileo - an impressive winner of today's (Sat 29/10!!) Lexus. Now a winner without a penalty and carrying 51kg. Trained by John Hawkes.

SANGSTER - as mentioned by Scotia, won the Vic Derby (today again!!) after taking an early lead and just managed to hold on.

TULLAMORE -20/1 - Gai Waterhouse doesn't seem to be overly enthused. ??. Said this week how disappointing it was that the Australian breeders have lost the plot and desire to breed stayers. (Strange. "Is So You Think" Aus bred?).

DUNADEN – 7/1 - French trained 2nd fav; like Americain last year, was an easy winner in the Geelong Cup last month; Delzangles the trainer "Dunaden has beaten Americain every time". (Not sure how many times though.) It seems that the current riding engagements may have to change following a disciplinary to the original jock.

AMERICAIN – 33/10 -fav; brilliant/impressive winner of the Moonee Valley Cup but apparently a little useless in Europe. Escaped a further penalty for that win. Bart Cummings “The horse to beat”.

JUKEBOX JURY -8/1- A European horse unraced in Australia and has better form than Americain. ?? (not exactly sure of what is "better form" . A front running grey destroyed many rivals including Americain, Dunaden in France and deadheated in the Irish St. Leger. Trained by Mark Johnston.

GLASS HARMONIUM -20/1- an impressive winner by making every post a winning one in todays (!!) Mackinnon Stakes. Has never won beyond 2200m. He has booked his place in the final field but the connections are not sure about going for it. He’s in.

SAPTAPADI – 66/1- winner of only one race

AT FIRST SIGHT – 12/1- runner-up in Workforce’s Derby; trained by Aiden O’Brien; only won one race; Steven King up

LUCAS CRANACH – 10/1- ultra impressive win in Germany in June; a fast finisher will need a good pace; has been backed in from $100 to 3rd favourite;

MOURAYAN – 14/1- cant find something solid to say.

Some jockeys:
Damien Oliver – Manighar
Sylvester de Sousa – Fox Hunt
Glyn Schofield – Hawk Island
William Buick – Lost In The Moment
Kerrin McEvoy – Modun
Steven King – At First Sight

Some trainers:
Mark Johnston – Juke Box Jury, Fox Hunt
Luca Cumani – Manighar, Drunken Sailor
Bart Cummings – Precedence, Illo
Ed Dunlop – Red Cadeaux
Saeed Bin Suroor – Lost In The Moment, Modun
Gai Waterhouse – Older Than Time, Tullamore
John Hawkes – Niwot

Thumb story web site
www.sportal.com.au/horseracing-opinion-d...orse-by-horse-145196

I'll take a wild guess and go for one of Mark Johnston's. Maybe Juke Box Jury, but who knows??

It is true, though, that despite horses like So You Think Australian breeders are becoming more and more speed-oriented. The race every breeder wants to win is the Golden Slipper for 2yos. This might go a bit of the way towards explaining why Galileo was a flop with his Australian runners, at least when compared to his European (and South African) runners.

Fox hunt

Since drawing no. 15 stall AMERICAIN has eased from $4 to now $5. NIWOT has been clipped to $12 and AT FIRST SIGHT to $13.

Source: www.luxbet.com

Francesca Cumani, daughter of British trainer Luca Cumani, is calling for the Melbourne Cup to discontinue its practice of "renting" scantily clad and underdressed celebrities. Oh no

She calls them "fly-in fillies"



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