Who's going to win the Melbourne Cup? :)

Mac Wrote:

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> Shezapunter = Americain
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> Scotia = Americain
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> Hibernia = Kasbah
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> Ryan = Americain
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> Barry Irwin = brass Americain

Mac = Niwot

Unhappy = Fox Hunt

Oscar = Dunaden

Magic Lips = Juke Box Jury

I say Niwot....only because I don't know the correct pronunciation and I have no idea what it means

Niwot e/w

Mac Wrote:

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> Mac Wrote:
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> > Shezapunter = Americain
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> > Scotia = Americain
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> > Hibernia = Niwot (ew)
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> > Ryan = Americain
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> > Barry Irwin = brass Americain
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> Mac = Niwot
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> Unhappy = Fox Hunt
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> Oscar = Dunaden
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> Magic Lips = Juke Box Jury

Tommy Hotspur = Niwot

I see it's off at 6 am, is that right? I will have to prise my reluctant eyes open and go sit in front of the gogbox. Still it should be fun. The racing I mean ... I've no interest in risque-clothed celebs ... unless they are male. And for some reason I don't think Francesca Cumani is moaning about men being hired to come half-undressed to the big day. Don't know why I think that, sjoe! but I do.

For anything at or over 2400 m, if I don't have a strong preference elsewhere, I head straight for an Irish-bred horse. They can stay, and they do it with style too. But I'm not so sure in this particular race, with the probable going, if that's a good idea.

Maybe I'm being ignerint but seems to me that, even if it's called "good", the going in IRE is softer and deeper than "good" in AUS. I'd love to see what the average pen reading is for both types of venue. Some objective data is needed for big international races. Comparative terms like "good" or "soft" are too vague for comparing horses from different countries ... they vary with the average for that venue, surely?

Talking of international, it's interesting (picking up Magic's comment) that 10 of the 24 runners are IRE-bred and only 3 are AUS. For those who like trivial pursuits, here's a list of where they were bred:

IRE: 10
NZ and AUS: 3 each
USA, GER, FR and GB: 2 each

Ok tnx Hibs my mate..from what Ive read Dunaden looks the one but as Barry says..very weak field..look for a New Zealand horse..are there any in the race this year?

Had a free bet available so eachway on Juke Box...

Latest betting from Sportingbet.............


Americain
4/1
Dunaden
13/2
Lucas Cranach
9/1
Niwot
10/1
Jukebox Jury
11/1
At First Sight
12/1
Mourayan
14/1
Tullamore
18/1
Illo
20/1
Modun
20/1
Moyenne Corniche
20/1
Lost In The Moment
22/1
Fox Hunt
25/1
Red Cadeaux
25/1
Drunken Sailor
33/1
Glass Harmonium
33/1
Manighar
33/1
Precedence
33/1
Unusual Suspect
33/1
Shamrocker
40/1
Hawk Island
66/1
Saptapadi
66/1
The Verminator
66/1
Older Than Time
100/1

Manighar .... E/W

Sangster bought Turncoat in training. I think was Durban horse with Brown at the time. Won Cape Guineas I think.

hiya

where can i find the full field?
Recall trainers attempt in UK to get Drunken Sailor entered.

CARD