WHAT A DISGRACE - FLAMINGO PARK TOP TRAINER JAAP VISSER

hibernia Wrote:

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> > Google translate is Mega kak, almost like Dumpy
> > and the telcrap tv staff
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> well is it camels or Giraffes? <

Giraffes - they are also tall like his story

'n kameelperd is a giraffe Hibs

Hibernia our bush racing was in July already. This horse was definitely not at our bush racing. Even at our 3 bush racing events we made sure a vet was present and in the 15 years we have raced in the bush I have never seen abuse like this. Horses injure themselves all the time, but how you treat the horse from there is what matters. We had a very cold spell last week with temperatures dropping to 0% and you leave a horse in distress in the open at night and your stable is a few metres from the camp. Then you call yourself an animal lover and you love all you horses.

Haupie good translation.This situation definitely needs to be investigated further .Very sad indeed and and not a nice feeling as a passionate horse racing and horse lover.Thanks to ABC Forums for keeping us up to date with racings ups and downs.

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> GOEIE MIDDAG EK JAAP VISSER GAAN NOU DIE WARE
> TOEDRAG VAN SAKE AAN U ALMAL DEURGEE OMTRENT
> GOLDEN OCCASSION. OP SATERDAG 14 SEPTEMBER HET
> GEVOER - NIKS VERKEERD.
> Good afternoon, me Jaap Visser will now gift you the facts regarding Golden Occasion. On Saturday 14/9 it was fed and nothing wrong.
> 15 SEPTEMBER - GEDURENDE DIE MIDDAG HOOF GROOM HET
> KOM SE GOLDEN OCC LOOP LINKS VOOR MANK. IS
> VERMOEDELIK DEUR ANDER RUSTENDE PERD GESKOP.
> 15 September - during the afternoon the head groom told me G O was limping on it's left front. Most probably kicked by onother resting horse.
> SY LINKER VOORARM IS GESWEL. SPIERE HET N
> RONDEBOL SAAMGETREK.
> His left fore-arm was swollen and the muscles were in a ball.
> HET TOE SELF ONDERSOEK GAAN INSTEL. KON EGTER GEEN
> GEBREKE OOGLOPEND VIND NIE.
> Went to check myself and could not see anything major
> 16 SEPTEMBER - MAANDAG - WEER GAAN KYK EN SELF
> GEDOKTER.
> 16 September. Went myself and doctored.
> 17 SEPTEMBER - DINSDAG - GEEN VERBETERING - SPIERE
> NOG STYF - SWELSEL HET BEGIN AFSAK NA KNIEG EN
> JOINT. SPIERE HET BEGIN ONTSPAN, MAAR HET BEGIN
> LIMP EN WOU GLAD NIE OP HOEF TRAP NIE.
> 17 September- No improvement. Muscels stiff and swelling went down into the knee-joint. Muscles started to relax, but he started limping and would not stand on it's hoof
> 18 SEPTEMBER - WOENSDAG - DR VAN HEERDEN OGGEND
> GESKAKEL WAS EGTER BAIE BESIG MET KAMEELPERDE.
> STUUR VIR DR PIET SWART.
> Dr Van Heerden was busy Chiraffes and send Dr Piet Swart
> NEEM PLATE DIESELFDE MIDDAG LAAT - BEVINDING
> MEEGEDEEL - GEEN GEBREKE DADELIK MEDIKASIE
> MOONTLIK SPIERE ASOOK SENUWEE BESKADIG. MOET EGTER
> VIR 3 TOT 5 DAE KYK VIR MOONTLIKE VERBETERING
> (HERSTEL) MOET MET DR IN VERBINDING BLY.
> Took exrays the same afternoon late. Finding, nothing fractured, medication. Maybe some muscle and nerve damage. Must wait for 3 or 5 days to see if there's improvement. Must stay in touch with Dr
> 19 SEPTEMBER - DONDERDAG - MEDIKASIE
> Medication
> 20 SEPTEMBER - VRYDAG - DIESELFDE BEHANDELING -
> GOLDEN HET NORMAAL GEEET EN WATER GEDRINK HET
> EGTER GELIMP AS HY LOOP - GEEN TEKENS VAN STRES.
> Same treatment. GO did drink and eat. No sigh of stress
> 21 SEPTEMBER - DIESELFDE BEHANDELING - DR VAN
> HEERDEN MET J0-ANN - WAS TEVREDE - PLATE WYS GEEN
> GEBREKE
> WIL VOORKOM ASOF SPIERE EN SENUWEES BESKADIG WAS.
> KANSE OP N NORMALE HERSTEL ONMOONTLIK - SAL
> LETSELS OORHOU EN LIMP.
> Same treatment. Dr Van Heerden and Jo-ann was satisfied. Xrays shows no fractures. Muscles and nerved damaged and no recovery will be possible Will have scares and a limp
> EIENAAR WAS ALREEDS IN KENNIS GESTEL - BESLUITE
> WAT GENEEM WORD IN DR VAN HEERDEN EN JAAP VISSER
> GELAAT.
> Owner was notified. It's up to Dr van Heerden and Jaap Visser
> 22 SEPTEMBER - SONDAG - HET REEDS MY BESLUIT
> GENEEM OOR GOLDEN. KONTAK NODIGE MENSE OM GOLDEN
> TE VERWYDER - TYD 06H58. KERK VERPLIGTINGE - KON
> EERS 17H00 VERWYDERING DOEN. GOLDEN HET DUS NOG
> GELEEF TOT 17H15.
> Made my decision. Contacted the neccessary people to remove GO @ 06h58. Had commitments at church and could only remove him at 17h00. He lived until 17h15.
> VIR VERDERE INLIGTING SKAKEL DR VAN HEERDEN - 053
> 8325711 OF KONTAK MY (JAAP) OM MY BETER TE LEER
> KEN VOOR ENIGE OORDEEL GEVEL KAN WORD - 076 540
> 5455. EK JAAP VISSER IS DIE AFRIGTER. JO-ANN
> VISSER - STABLE EMPLOYEE EN KLERE HOUER.
> You can contact him for more info
> EK GLO DAARAAN EN VERBIND MY TOT DIE REELS VAN DIE
> NATIONAL HORSERACING ASS. ASOOK PHUMELELA. INDIEN
> EK VERKEERD WAS IN MY OPTREDE SAL DIE NHRA EN
> PHUMELELA MY DAARVAN VERWITTIG EN AANSPREEK.
> I believe and adhere to the rules NHA and P. If I was wrong in my actions the above can inform me and have a investigation
> EK IS BAIE LIEF VIR MY DIERE ASOOK MY HUIDIGE
> EIENAARS EN DIE VOORREG OM RENPERDE TE KAN AFRIG.
> DIT IS N VOORREG EN NIE N REG OM RENPERDE AFTERIG
> NIE.
> I love my animals very much as do my owners. It is a honour to train race horses and not a right.
> BAIE DANKIE
> Thank you
> JAAP VISSER

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Please tell your posters that horses with certain leg injuries are usually "safer" outside in an open space, than confined in a stable. If a horse with a leg injury lies down, and cannot get up again, it could panic, could roll, and could "cast itself", causing further, more painful, more complicated injuries. I'm not saying this is the case here, but confining an injured horse to a stable, it not always in the horses best interest!

Can`t remember if i contacted the Nhra lastnight or early this morning but still no reply or even a notifcation that they have received my mail

Steph do you know anything about Namibia bush racing? because its been ssaid that Visser horses have raced there?

Must be from someone with veterinary qualifications then? How the hell can they monitor the horse for improvement in a large paddock? With binoculars?

Good day, I had a few horses with the Vissers. The first time i visited their stables and was taken on a tour I was impressed. Mr Visser had his bed in the stables and I thought to myself, wow, a true animal lover.
When one of my horses had finshed their racing and no longer a financial prospect for them they shipped the horse back to me. But the manner in which they did had me beleive that this yard is not about horses but merely a money making stable.
They sent the horse off without informing me. The never phoned to tell me anything and never ever inquired about the welfare or the well being of the horse, so to come on this forum and pronounce you an animal lover is wrong. They never phoned to find out if the horse arrived safely!!!
I want to be the last person to kick a helpless man, and it is not my intention to add fuel to the fire, but the horse must come first. Especially if you have been crowned champion trainer and you go on air and brag about the good work the stable is doing.
But folks, dont worry about the SPCA, NHRA etc taking action, the action that needs to be taken immediately is that all owners need to remove the horses from this stable.
Show you true support for the horse

And on that premise, I'm guessing that St Nicholas Abbey would be better off in an "open space" in case he falls over.and starts to panic when he can't get up... hmmm.... Really? Curious to know which leg injuries require outdoor rest and which require box rest... please enlighten me.

hibernia Wrote:

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> This message was sent to my email
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> Please tell your posters that horses with certain
> leg injuries are usually "safer" outside in an
> open space, than confined in a stable. If a horse
> with a leg injury lies down, and cannot get up
> again, it could panic, could roll, and could "cast
> itself", causing further, more painful, more
> complicated injuries. I'm not saying this is the
> case here, but confining an injured horse to a
> stable, it not always in the horses best interest!


so if it needs to eat or drink it should hobble along to find that? Thank the Lord Human Hospitals don't work that way too or many injured folk would die trying to get to food and water!!