Vaal Thursday 3/10/13

Ben-Hur Wrote:

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> > > I think Elvis' horse - SS, is due to get
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> > > today. All the best Elvis -D
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> > 1800 does not suit. My opinion. Also my opinion.
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> > .Simons is a parachute and his strike rate with
> > decent mounts is poor.
> > Fort Dixy the business. . . .as Ziets would
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> > sell your house.
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> www.formgrids.com/subscriber/fgRaceResult.a
> spx?t=pre&rn=2013-09VR101,ZA&hs=JUDGE+THE+STRIDE
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> www.formgrids.com/subscriber/fgHorseCollat .
> aspx?hr=TOBE+TURF+TERROR%2c2013-09VR101%2cZA
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> In the collateral form I substituted Tote Turf
> Terror with Fort Dixy.
> The comparison to Gypsy Al runs may be significant

I have zero clue how to read those collateral formlines. Is complete greek to me. What the hell has tobetur terror got to do with anything.a

The Madji, Ajuba beat TTT by 8,5 lengths behind Banjo Bay and TTT beat Judge The Stride by 0,5 lengths so on collateral form should Ajuba should beat Judge The Stride by 9 lengths. However did these horses run consistantly?

The Madji
the first is just the race where Judge The Stride finished ,50 to Tobe Turf Terror.
Alongside TBTT is C symbol.That would tell you TBT previous runs with horses in that race. Now they have recently included an option to substitute the search with a horse of your choice.Do that and you see Fort Dixy has run against Gypsy Al and I recall 10 lenghts separated those two in comparison to how Gypsy Al and Judge The Stride finished
Bottom line should be that you might have to move to your summerhouse some time soon

shrek Wrote:

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> The Madji, Ajuba beat TTT by 8,5 lengths behind
> Banjo Bay and TTT beat Judge The Stride by 0,5
> lengths so on collateral form should Ajuba should
> beat Judge The Stride by 9 lengths. However did
> these horses run consistantly?


Tobeturfterror followed up his maiden win with a decent effort last time out, but probably unlikely that he has improved by 9 lengths from the run behind Ajuba to the run when he beat JTS - but then JTS is probably also improving - these are the puzzles that we are trying to solve :S

The Form of the Judge race is very poor as 2 x 5ths 1 x 4th and 12 unplaced runs BUT when you look at the Lbh is amazing the horses he beat on times that day

shrek Wrote:

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> The Madji, Ajuba beat TTT by 8,5 lengths behind
> Banjo Bay and TTT beat Judge The Stride by 0,5
> lengths so on collateral form should Ajuba should
> beat Judge The Stride by 9 lengths. However did
> these horses run consistantly?


I didn't dig deep enough so both should be ahead ?

JTL Wrote:

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> The Form of the Judge race is very poor as 2 x
> 5ths 1 x 4th and 12 unplaced runs BUT when you
> look at the Lbh is amazing the horses he beat on
> times that day


Makes me wonder about the accuracy of the time :S

" In truth, I am tired of mulling over this one which indicates I have doubts about the market leaders but, though I certainly don't think others can be discounted, I don't see anything as good enough value to take on the front two in the betting"

Its official, I farking hate Race 3, you lot discussing it is making me mull it over again and I think it is one that only time can tell. Impossible to know the "problem" with Ajuba last time, impossible to know how much TobeTT improved when meeting JTS (trainer has has had subsequent winners in Flag Of France, Daniella and Tuesday's Child since who all, imo, were surprise winners but I think there was only a week between his runs against Ajuba and JTS) and Fort Dixy, a horse who I believe has been scratched the last twice he was entered (as I had him pencilled in as value/idiot chances and is now 3/1 for this ), can't be ruled out (as well as others imo) as he thrashed Ajuba last time out. And a 50/1 shocker will probably win it anyway! <

Yip, race 3 certainly a bit of a teaser; my gut says that Ajuba will win this IF he repeats his pinultimate; if he does not repeat his pinultimate run, then the question still remains if Fort Dixy or Judge the Stride is the right one (for me 3 lengths behind Nad's Pride probably better than 1/2 a length behind Tobeturfterror); I really can't see anything bar these 3 :S

Fark me you guys talk about this race as if its the ARC...<

Race 3 is a puzzle, I just feel JTS has more scope for improvement but have backed up with Ajuba in the exotics.

ONE of my Idiot yankees,
R1 # 1
R2 # 2
R3 # 3
R4 # 4,

others to play around with, BARON, AJUBA, SILVER, CROWN MINE, IN MY SECTRET LIFE