Pick 6 pools have increased sharply since couplings were dropped

To suggest that if you spend an extra few hours studying ,the form will change, is a joke....................if a horse is held on form ,it stays that way no matter how long you look at it!
(What I will say is that I have consistently found the form at this time of the year (Oct/Nov)very unpredictable)

rob faux Wrote:

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> To suggest that if you spend an extra few hours
> studying ,the form will change, is a
> joke....................if a horse is held on form
> ,it stays that way no matter how long you look at
> it!
> (What I will say is that I have consistently found
> the form at this time of the year (Oct/Nov)very
> unpredictable)


Agree with you. What I will say is that I have consistently found the form to be unpredictable throughout the year.

Which then leads me to believe, that there are other influences, not known to the general punting public, that play a role.

Some food for thought.

Use our current political situation as a pointer. Everyone wants to be a player, but there are only a few winners. With so much of of public funding available, who wants to share it with the mugs?

Now if you look at lotto (looto)and powerball. Millions contributed by Joe public with his few rands available, with huge payouts to a few unknowns.

How is this possible?

Lotto, Powerball, P6, require 6 numbers.

To play every permutation on lotto or powerball is near impossible, yet there are winners., with no form to study.

The same cannot be said for racing. Using an average field of ten horse per race, a full perm would cost R1m. Near impossible too.

So, my point is that the only way lotto or powerball can be won is 1)pure luck of the choice of numbers, or 2)all played combinations are analyzed to determined which played or unplayed combination will result in the highest payout.

With a cutoff time of half an hour before, this allows sufficient time to determine what numbers combination will payout best, and without transparent auditing, these combinations can be slipped in.

Would it be prudent to believe that racing is above board.

Where does form study come into play...no different to looto (looting public money to enrich those in the know)

My opinion.

When couplings applied and there was a stable with 3 or more runners then a vast majority would include the coupling and not bother to study the form of all the coupled runners as it was not necessary, hence the form study was easier, now , much like the j/pot a lot more studying is needed and judging by the number of winners it's showing that the pick 6 without couplings is not the mission impossible that most were predicting, on more than one occasion after a "surprise" horse has won a race and I go back and look at the form I can make a case for it and have said on many occasions , if only I had seen that run?? seems im on my own in this department :S

Titch,starting with the answer and finding the supporting evidence is generally a piece of cake...........we have a panel here who are very adept...........................it's using the right evidence, in advance, that 95% can't do!

My best is the ARM comment............. "on that run 7 months and 10 runs ago..............." .
Question :why did it have no affect on the last 10 runs .......what made 11 the magic number?

Countrymember Wrote:

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> You also better tell the soccer 13 players to do a
> lot more studying as well........

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rob faux [ PM ]
Re: Pick 6 pools have increased sharply since couplings were dropped
October 16, 2013 12:24PM Registered: 6 years ago
Posts: 5,090
Titch,starting with the answer and finding the supporting evidence is generally a piece of cake...........we have a panel here who are very adept...........................it's using the right evidence, in advance, that 95% can't do!

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Titch, you have a point imo regarding the study of form with horses that would previously have simply been thrown in as a "coupling" but I would have liked it if you could have stipulated that point at the outset. Telling me I need to study harder etc simply makes me want to stuff a newspaper down your throat... in the nicest possible way of course It is why I started to have a strong dislike for VM. I also entirely agree with Len/Observer/etc that these figures can be distorted any way they like. I also think like Greg/Frodo in that to win big you probably have to cover all runners from certain yards, that increases your stake and decreases your % win and the more people that do that the less you will win. I am already beginning to have less enthusiasm for the P6 and would have won it twice I think if couplings still applied (and that is definitely only "think"!). Just missing out on what would have been a nice sum is frustrating but puts me off going back rather than making me more determined to get "the big one", I was listening to the UK lotto the other day and the excitement in someone's voice on the phone at winning 50k brought a smile to my face. Well done to them... it was just another reminder to me that to make someone smile they don't have to win the big one, people are happy etc just winning a nice sum. Put away the greed mindset and put smiles on a lot more people's faces remains my strong opinion, it may not be the best approach from a business outlook but, certainly for a country like SA where money or even jobs can be very tough to come by, it must surely be preferable. I still say this new P6 is designed to benefit the big players rather than Mr Average or below. I dislike it and dislike those that brought it in and advertise it to death trying to get Mr Below Average to give them his last R1 in the hope he will exchange it for a CT mansion and private jet! Think he'd be happy with a 2 bed bungalow myself!!

Englander, you touch on the aspect that is probably the most ignored .............greed.
The term "discipline" is quoted often but the greatest reason for lack of profit is looking for unrealistic returns IMO
We are all delighted with 15% returns on most investments and barely satisfied with 1000% on a wager!!!!!
I think that the term "responsible gambling" is as much an oxymoron as "fun run" or "married life"..............lol

correctomundo Rob,

the biggest LIE touted in gabling (racing) is

play what you can afford to lose

really it one should focus on how much one can afford to WIN