Training under the Lap

What about the jockeys that have horses in training

Rockspider Wrote:

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> What about the jockeys that have horses in
> training


Isnt this okay Rockspider.....just as long as they dont bet? I can be way off the mark here......so looking forward to the feedback

And they have to ride their horse in the race or not take a ride at all

Jocks can bet

PeeKay Wrote:

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> Rockspider Wrote:
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> > What about the jockeys that have horses in
> > training
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> Isnt this okay Rockspider.....just as long as they
> dont bet? I can be way off the mark here......so
> looking forward to the feedback

Jockeys are allowed to own and ride their own horses, just not allowed ride another horse in the same race.

the real question to investigate is how many jockeys own "under the lap"???????
..... i been offered a horse before to partowned by the "legal" owner and with a certain jockey as silent partner.
the horse went to pe from capetown and if i remember correct the "silent partner" only rode it once/twice...

Would be interesting to know how many,if any,jockeys are silent partners in horses and ride either the fav.or the well backed outsider that wins the race.

sugahorse Wrote:

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> Owning under the lap can purely be for financial
> reasons i.e. Not having to pay R3000 to register
> colors when one only owns 10%in a horse and it
> doesn't run in your colors anyway.
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> Training under the lap are people that are not
> registered or documented anywhere as officially
> belonging to a stable. This can be due to
> reputation or I guess a whole host of reasons. I
> don't believe this is right at all

Wrong or right it happens more often than one would think.....even owners with colours have under the lap share in other horses.....and the reasons are plenty....mainly ego's where one partner cant stand another persona yet he wants in on the horse....goes to another partner and takes an unofficial share in his chop....or a guy gets roped into a share because he is owed something by a trainer/partner this could be a short term arrangement until a guy has been settled....not having an official partnership also means a quick escape....horse no good hand back your share without dissolving the partnership.....big risks....horse a star you get paid back your initial investment and the official partners get big tom and the glory.....your application colours is late because you think horse will run in the next racing season so you never renewed/applied.....trainer says horse is running in 2weeks...... horse runs but not in your name.....:

the fantasy Wrote:

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> Would be interesting to know how many,if
> any,jockeys are silent partners in horses and
> ride either the fav.or the well backed outsider
> that wins the race.

Happy Forever belongs to Andy Fortune and Gregg Cheyne's wife has owned a few..but cant for the life of me imagine why one would want to give their own horse a "miss" ...what is even more baffling is how one can even arrive at this conspiracy theory... fantasy and apt nom de plume.

Titch Wrote:

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> > Would be interesting to know how many,if
> > any,jockeys are silent partners in horses and
> > ride either the fav.or the well backed outsider
> > that wins the race.
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> Happy Forever belongs to Andy Fortune and Gregg
> Cheyne's wife has owned a few..but cant for the
> life of me imagine why one would want to give
> their own horse a "miss" ...what is even more
> baffling is how one can even arrive at this
> conspiracy theory... fantasy and apt nom de plume.

Damien Oliver

Nickname(s) Ollie
Nationality Australian
Born 22 June 1972 (age 41)
Perth, Western Australia
Sport
Sport Professional jockey

Damien Oliver (born 22 June 1972) is an Australian professional race jockey. Oliver comes from a racing family; his father Ray Oliver had a successful career until his death in a race fall during the 1975 Kalgoorlie cup in Western Australia.[1]
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naresh i cant see the relevance... please enlighten me??

Titch Wrote:

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> naresh i cant see the relevance... please
> enlighten me??

Okay the jockey did not own the horse but he did back another runner in the race. So it could happen.