Greyville Saturday 5th July

Noordhoek Ice Wrote:

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> Come on guys...STOP WORRYING....PUT PUT PUT!!!!
> Legislate you beauty!!! (tu) And at 5/1...it's
> stealing money man! (

I don't steal...

Max rating for three year olds based on exposed and collateral form (through Bezenova (Gauteng), Top Jet (Cape) and Everest (Gauteng) ) is 106 but Legislate is running off a 110 and Rakes Chestnut and Louis the King are running off 109 and Captain America off 106...so they are carrying 1,5-2 kgs more than their current form shows...cannot have them...maybe if all of them were 10/1 and greater, I would take all 4 and still make a profit... but since they are not., not for me...

We take our chances and some-one will be right...just no gloating post-event...

The first bi-pot and place accumulator will be the bets to catch

@keeran Lockheed Jetstar.
My only concerns are 1st run at Greyville and rested 70 days.
I will make a decision whether to bank him after hearing trainer comments.

hi all...some very nice comments and opinions coming through (tu)

race 4
Hot Ticket relishes this kind of distance and @ 4years old , this Silvano gelding is at Peak!!!....will be a very tough nut to crack especially after it's last run...only 2 dangers for me are Dylan's promise , good draw and great jockey aboard and seems to also like the marathon distance, will trouble the favourite when others have cried enough!....Canterbury tale really puzzles me and could rise to the occasion after showing earlier promise and great potential...something went amiss big time with this smart son of Greys Inn but came back with a decent run behind the favourite last time out....Top stable and jockey selection is very interesting....the rest have a lot to do if merit ratings are anything to go by.

race 5
Alboran Sea looks like a natural champion in the making and her last start was super impressive beating a very progressive sort easily, in Rich girl. I am tempted to banker her in exotics but just cannot ignore the chances of Carry on Alice as her debut run in KZN behind Guiness was full of merit!.....also Love to sail and Pine princess look like really good sorts too!

that's all for now

keep plotting

Hi Kitkat

James Goodman already interviewed trainer and he made Lockheed Jetstar 1 of his top runners on the day. Also ran a few times on the inside track at Turfs so the track will be no problem at all. The whole world will banker Beach Beauty excluding me so if you wanna be brave like me put your head down and take a chance as a 11mil pool does not come often. I will play 2 p6's 1 Lockheed Jetstar banker loading everywhere else and another cover p6

Hope this helps

Big Race - Rakes Chestnut
Race 8 - Chestnut Rocker

60/1 my only big play for the day

(keeran Wrote:

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> Hi Kitkat
>
> James Goodman already interviewed trainer and he
> made Lockheed Jetstar 1 of his top runners on the
> day. Also ran a few times on the inside track at
> Turfs so the track will be no problem at all. The
> whole world will banker Beach Beauty excluding me
> so if you wanna be brave like me put your head
> down and take a chance as a 11mil pool does not
> come often. I will play 2 p6's 1 Lockheed Jetstar
> banker loading everywhere else and another cover
> p6
>
> Hope this helps

(tu)

TNaicker Wrote:

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> Noordhoek Ice Wrote:
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> > Come on guys...STOP WORRYING....PUT PUT PUT!!!!
> > Legislate you beauty!!! (tu) And at 5/1...it's
> > stealing money man! (
>
> I don't steal...
>
> Max rating for three year olds based on exposed
> and collateral form (through Bezenova (Gauteng),
> Top Jet (Cape) and Everest (Gauteng) ) is 106 but
> Legislate is running off a 110 and Rakes Chestnut
> and Louis the King are running off 109 and Captain
> America off 106...so they are carrying 1,5-2 kgs
> more than their current form shows...cannot have
> them...maybe if all of them were 10/1 and greater,
> I would take all 4 and still make a profit... but
> since they are not., not for me...
>
> We take our chances and some-one will be
> right...just no gloating post-event...

Pomodoro won this race off 108 - I think LTK has proven to be a better horse having won the TC against three-year-olds that are holding form unlike last year where we had three different winners of the TC series - Legislate wins the KRA and Daily News killing Chestnut's Rocket(has beaten older horses in a Mr 86 too) who then beats Castlethorpe and Punta Arenas at Clairwood. Rake's Chestnut shows he is also a contender. My feeling is that the older horses could not win last year and none have improved dramatically over that period with the exception of Yorker who could have been a runner had he stood his ground.

PA :
Leg 1 - 7,13,2
Leg 2 -1,7
Leg 3 - 1
Leg 4 -1,8
Leg 5 -11
Leg 6- 8,2
Leg 7 - 1

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> TNaicker Wrote:
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> > Noordhoek Ice Wrote:
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> > > Come on guys...STOP WORRYING....PUT PUT
> PUT!!!!
> > > Legislate you beauty!!! (tu) And at
> 5/1...it's
> > > stealing money man! (
> >
> > I don't steal...
> >
> > Max rating for three year olds based on exposed
> > and collateral form (through Bezenova
> (Gauteng),
> > Top Jet (Cape) and Everest (Gauteng) ) is 106
> but
> > Legislate is running off a 110 and Rakes
> Chestnut
> > and Louis the King are running off 109 and
> Captain
> > America off 106...so they are carrying 1,5-2
> kgs
> > more than their current form shows...cannot
> have
> > them...maybe if all of them were 10/1 and
> greater,
> > I would take all 4 and still make a profit...
> but
> > since they are not., not for me...
> >
> > We take our chances and some-one will be
> > right...just no gloating post-event...
>
> Pomodoro won this race off 108 - I think LTK has
> proven to be a better horse having won the TC
> against three-year-olds that are holding form
> unlike last year where we had three different
> winners of the TC series - Legislate wins the KRA
> and Daily News killing Chestnut's Rocket(has
> beaten older horses in a Mr 86 too) who then beats
> Castlethorpe and Punta Arenas at Clairwood. Rake's
> Chestnut shows he is also a contender. My feeling
> is that the older horses could not win last year
> and none have improved dramatically over that
> period with the exception of Yorker who could have
> been a runner had he stood his ground.


Very interesting - as stated previously I'm with TN believing the 3 yr olds are too high - the argument that Pomodoro won off 108 is making me re-consider, but that was 2012 and now we are in 2014, so not sure how relevant that is - the fact that Legislate beat Chestnut Rocket, who then beat Punta Arenas does not worry me at all, as CR imo is much better over 1400 and also PA was having a prep.

So I still believe that the 3 yr olds as a group are priced up too short and that the value lies with the older horses - I guess we will see on Saturday :

royal president Wrote:

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> Hot ticket x carry on alice x afrikaburn x beach
> beauty. 6500/100

better value be banker your 4 field,field,P6 R208 or R104(50 percent)

According to Racing & Sports, their views of the race. Hope some of this helps (tu)

1. King of Pain (Rating 54) - Racing in good form, Top career strike rate, Won at big odds last start, Unraced this distance, Up 600m in distance, Unraced this course, Winning jockey, Wide barrier position, Prefers give-in ground, Up in class

2. Capetown Noir (Rating 55.5) - Top career strike rate, Blinkers first time, Up 600m in distance, Winning jockey, Wide barrier position, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

3. Tellina (Rating 55) - Good strike rate, Up in class on last start, Unraced this distance, Up 400m in distance, Top jockey/trainer, Wide barrier position, Prefers give-in gound

4. Whiteline Fever (Rating 55) - Modest career strike rate, Up 600m in distance, Won at course, Jockey riding well, Prefer give-in ground, Up in class

5. Wylie Hall (Rating 47) - Not raced 70 days, Good strike rate, Up in class on last start, Prefer give-in ground

6. Espumanti (Rating 57) - Racing in good form, Not raced 50 days, Top career strike rate, Won last start, Unraced this distance, Up 300m in distance, Won at course, Top jockey/trainer strike rate, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

7. Punta Arenas (Rating 49.5) - Up in class on last start, Up 750m in distance, Not won for over a year, Wide barrier position, Prefers give-in ground, Up in class

8. Cherry on The Top (Rating 53.5) - Racing in good form, Top career strike rate, Failed favorite last start, Faces tougher here, Unraced this distance, Up 400m in distance, Winning jockey, Wide barrier position, Never won on wet ground, Up in class

9. Legislate (Rating 57) - Won first-up, Racing in good form, Not raced 35 days, Top career strike rate, Short priced winner last start, Faces tougher here, Unraced this distance, Unbeaten this course, Top jockey/trainer, Wide barrier position, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

10. Louis The King (Rating 53.5) - Racing in good form, Not raced 35 days, Top career strike rate, Up in class on last start, Unraced this distance, Up 200m in distance, Top jockey, Wide barrier position, Prefers give-in ground, Up in class

11. Rake's Chestnut (Rating 58) - Been thereabouts recently, Not raced 35 days, Up in class on last start, Up 200m in distance, Top kockey/trainer strike rate, Never won on wet ground, Up in class

12. Halve the Deficit (Rating 55) - Been thereabouts recently, Top career strike rate, Up in class on last start, Unraced this distance, Up 400m in distance, Top jockey.trainer strike rate, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

13. Jet Belle (Rating 53) - Top career strike rate, Unraced this distance, Up 600m in distance, Wide barrier position, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

14. Captain America (Rating 57) - Not raced 35 days, Top career strike rate, Up in class on last start, Unrace this distance, Up 200m in distance, Top jockey riding well, Wide barrier position, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

15. In the Fast Lane (Rating 58) - Racing in good form, Not raced 35 days, Top career strike rate, Won last start, Faces tougher here, Unraced this distance, Up 200m in distance, Won at course, Top jockey riding well, Prefers soft footing, Up in class

16. Futura (Rating 50) - Racing in good form, Top career strike rate, Up in class on last start, Unraced this distance, Up 400m in distance, Won only start this course, Never won on wet ground, Up in class

S&R Selections: (9) LEGISLATE (15) IN THE FAST LANE (2) CAPE TOWN NOIR