Through your eyes only......a noble thought...
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Through your eyes only......a noble thought...
15 years 7 months ago
EYESMAN WROTE
what a load of crap. no one runs any show- its about respect for the more older experienced jocks. Racing is clean 99% of the time- if you dont believe that then dont play and stop moaning about jocks not trying or trying to run the show, maybe in the past it might have been the case but not now. if it were so easy to be corrupt why they all still waking up at 4 to go to work.... cos its their living and they have to do it, they may punt a few that win but at the end of the day we study form and its all out there to see.
Perhaps, If I was not that crooked myself (in the past), I would have had the same noble eyes as you.
I salute you for your innocence and naive outlook on the racing industry.
I truly wish, I could still have your eyes...and ears...
a few days ago on the VAAL..
An argument about a race that was run.
both Jockey A and B for the same trainer in the same race...
and some....scheming...
Jockey A to TRAINER X...
I want my present from you..
TRAINER X to Jockey A ; you must get your present from JOCKEY B
Jockey B to Jockey A; you must get your present from TRAINER X
JOCKEY A: If you dont give me my present, I am going to report you to the Jockey club.....as if the jockey club would do anything...
what a load of crap. no one runs any show- its about respect for the more older experienced jocks. Racing is clean 99% of the time- if you dont believe that then dont play and stop moaning about jocks not trying or trying to run the show, maybe in the past it might have been the case but not now. if it were so easy to be corrupt why they all still waking up at 4 to go to work.... cos its their living and they have to do it, they may punt a few that win but at the end of the day we study form and its all out there to see.
Perhaps, If I was not that crooked myself (in the past), I would have had the same noble eyes as you.
I salute you for your innocence and naive outlook on the racing industry.
I truly wish, I could still have your eyes...and ears...
a few days ago on the VAAL..
An argument about a race that was run.
both Jockey A and B for the same trainer in the same race...
and some....scheming...
Jockey A to TRAINER X...
I want my present from you..
TRAINER X to Jockey A ; you must get your present from JOCKEY B
Jockey B to Jockey A; you must get your present from TRAINER X
JOCKEY A: If you dont give me my present, I am going to report you to the Jockey club.....as if the jockey club would do anything...
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15 years 7 months ago
if it is so corrupt then dont punt andrewest ,you carry on like a stuck record
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15 years 7 months ago
I punt the corrupt horses...
why should I give up..
if you cannot beat them...cheat them..
its you guys that believe it's clean...just like the tote with the quartet..
you believe the explantion given by the TAB..and continue as if nothing is wrong.
racing has got 2 sides, the clean and the dirty, good and the bad, the noble and the evil side..just like life...
its best that one sees both sides..take both sides into consideration and then punt...
ie...
MARCUS is on the stable elect for Laird...good
Striker is on a horse for trainer ERASMUS...good
Fort Baluga get scratched in the starting stalls BIG SIX wins 1st leg of P6..
I have the field in the 1st leg..on suggestion from a top jockey..BAD..BAD..
so, instead of being intractable, listen and learn..
ie if Lance Micheal shortens a Tarry horse...
if Derek Bruggman punts a Woodruff horse...
if Oconner lays a Robbie Hill horse...
why should I give up..
if you cannot beat them...cheat them..
its you guys that believe it's clean...just like the tote with the quartet..
you believe the explantion given by the TAB..and continue as if nothing is wrong.
racing has got 2 sides, the clean and the dirty, good and the bad, the noble and the evil side..just like life...
its best that one sees both sides..take both sides into consideration and then punt...
ie...
MARCUS is on the stable elect for Laird...good
Striker is on a horse for trainer ERASMUS...good
Fort Baluga get scratched in the starting stalls BIG SIX wins 1st leg of P6..
I have the field in the 1st leg..on suggestion from a top jockey..BAD..BAD..
so, instead of being intractable, listen and learn..
ie if Lance Micheal shortens a Tarry horse...
if Derek Bruggman punts a Woodruff horse...
if Oconner lays a Robbie Hill horse...
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15 years 7 months ago
Hear Hear Andre . You can't beat them then cheat them .
If anyone believes that racing is a game of honest gentlemen then stop punting cause you will never make money unless you learn the system and crook the crooks .
Very few honest trainers and jockeys left in this game.
If anyone believes that racing is a game of honest gentlemen then stop punting cause you will never make money unless you learn the system and crook the crooks .
Very few honest trainers and jockeys left in this game.
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15 years 7 months ago
Damn!! You have alot of time on your hands AW.
So what you saying is JOCKEY A pulled a horse for JOCKEY B?
For the same stable?
And the trainer was in on it?
HA HA HA HA HA HA
You crack me up West.
So what you saying is JOCKEY A pulled a horse for JOCKEY B?
For the same stable?
And the trainer was in on it?
HA HA HA HA HA HA
You crack me up West.
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15 years 7 months ago
so andre how many millions have you made out of this game.you speak so much shit
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15 years 7 months ago
Roger here is a scenario which I have seen so many times .
Same Stable has two runners .
One is a 10/1 and the other is a 40/1 .
10/1 has decent form . 40/1 has crap form .
10/1 gets backed into 33/10 , 40/1 drifts to 50/1 .
Bear in mind that there are R25000 claims on the 10/1 .
40/1 shits in and 33/10 shot runs no where .
On interview Trainer says he is dumbfounded . 50/1 showed no work at home .
Next few races 50/1 starts at 5/1 , 33/10 , 28/10 and runs no where .
I guess the 50/1 just decided to run for its life on that day .
And don't give me bull about trainers not getting horses pulled up if their price is stolen . I know quiet a bit of trainers that have done and continue to do this.
I know quiet a bit about jockeys working our their PA's the night before .
I know plenty of jockeys that have punters punting for them .
I know plenty of jockeys that have ruined punters lives .
Thats why a stable must have a stable jock that earns enough to not worry about punting and a apprentice whose willing to learn from the stable jock . Our senior jocks must be role models to the young chaps who are just starting their trade.
Their is a cheat in every sport .
Same Stable has two runners .
One is a 10/1 and the other is a 40/1 .
10/1 has decent form . 40/1 has crap form .
10/1 gets backed into 33/10 , 40/1 drifts to 50/1 .
Bear in mind that there are R25000 claims on the 10/1 .
40/1 shits in and 33/10 shot runs no where .
On interview Trainer says he is dumbfounded . 50/1 showed no work at home .
Next few races 50/1 starts at 5/1 , 33/10 , 28/10 and runs no where .
I guess the 50/1 just decided to run for its life on that day .
And don't give me bull about trainers not getting horses pulled up if their price is stolen . I know quiet a bit of trainers that have done and continue to do this.
I know quiet a bit about jockeys working our their PA's the night before .
I know plenty of jockeys that have punters punting for them .
I know plenty of jockeys that have ruined punters lives .
Thats why a stable must have a stable jock that earns enough to not worry about punting and a apprentice whose willing to learn from the stable jock . Our senior jocks must be role models to the young chaps who are just starting their trade.
Their is a cheat in every sport .
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15 years 7 months ago
Pirates , Andre speaks more sense in one post then all the posts you have posted on put together .
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Re: Re: Through your eyes only......a noble thought...
15 years 7 months ago
you right lex every race is crook ,you are pathetic mate
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15 years 7 months ago
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try scratch jockey B's horse
change Jockeys...lol..we saw this comming...
yep..if you see how much we won..we figured the scheme..it will crack you up..
Pirates..
lol....
I have LOST and won more money in racing than you can imagine..
perhaps more than you will earn in a lifetime...lol...
and I mean that..
during the 80's and 90's..I went mad...some weeks R300K win or lose..
the bookmakers of the time will confirm..
else ask terry joffe, david abromowitz, frikkie theart
during the 2000's..played smarter..
won 5 x 1 ticket P6's in my lifetime..
3000 PA's x 19 times consecutive racemeetings...Allen Levin will confirm..
quartet 11 times = R427,500
However,
if I win another R20m, I could have half the losses back..
the difference between the shit I speak and yours, mine can be backed up..can yours..
call the gambling board and ask them to tell you how much I lost and won..
and I say lost first..
as we first loose..then we start winning back the money we lost..
try scratch jockey B's horse
change Jockeys...lol..we saw this comming...
yep..if you see how much we won..we figured the scheme..it will crack you up..
Pirates..
lol....
I have LOST and won more money in racing than you can imagine..
perhaps more than you will earn in a lifetime...lol...
and I mean that..
during the 80's and 90's..I went mad...some weeks R300K win or lose..
the bookmakers of the time will confirm..
else ask terry joffe, david abromowitz, frikkie theart
during the 2000's..played smarter..
won 5 x 1 ticket P6's in my lifetime..
3000 PA's x 19 times consecutive racemeetings...Allen Levin will confirm..
quartet 11 times = R427,500
However,
if I win another R20m, I could have half the losses back..
the difference between the shit I speak and yours, mine can be backed up..can yours..
call the gambling board and ask them to tell you how much I lost and won..
and I say lost first..
as we first loose..then we start winning back the money we lost..
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Re: Re: Through your eyes only......a noble thought...
15 years 7 months ago
why dont the two of you report these matters to the nhra or are you in with the crooks..andre been following your tips and quite frankly you couldnt tip over a bucket of shit so the crookies are outsmarting you..laughable
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15 years 7 months ago
Pirates stop talking crap and understand what he is saying . I never said every race is crooked . I simply said that I have witnessed what goes on behind the scenes. I have seen and heard the shit these guys get up to .
So what have I heard and seen Pirates ?
I wonder how old you are and how long you in this game .
Me Pathetic , I think not .
So what have I heard and seen Pirates ?
I wonder how old you are and how long you in this game .
Me Pathetic , I think not .
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