I wonder who will buy lot 53 at the RTR sale?

bad company Wrote:

---

> I see there are some nice jooste horses on sale on
> gavelhouse, I wonder why ?


Got to keep the wheel turning.......plenty waiting in the wings......

davetheflower Wrote:

---

> I'm in The Walter Mitty Stand..


Youre a funny guy Davey

I wonder if the reboot will be as good as the 1957 original?

Pixie Wrote:

---

> A bidding battle between someone paying 8% (who
> knows how good the horse is) and the other paying
> 100% of what he bids (who has no inside
> knowledge). sounds dangerous games for a genuine
> buyer! rather buy on a level playing field sale!


There is commission to the sales comp and the vendor. Works out at around 13%. Plus if you buy back, you miss out on the potential income from the sale. For instance, if I buy back a horse for 100K, I pay R13K comission + R7K entry for the race. Costs me R20K to keep my horse, plus the costs of the first two years of its life. If I let someone else buy it on the sale I would have had a R100k in the bank. So it's not cheap to buy back.

I think this sale will have more smoke and mirrors than a David Copperfield show.
Most of the horses are prepared by MJ's trainers?! Smells like BS to me.
I am not helping funding Jooste winning his own race - will try my luck at the TBA sale - always feels like I have a chance of not getting fleeced there,..

Equine talk Wrote:

---

> I think this sale will have more smoke and mirrors
> than a David Copperfield show.
> Most of the horses are prepared by MJ's trainers?!
> Smells like BS to me.
> I am not helping funding Jooste winning his own
> race - will try my luck at the TBA sale - always
> feels like I have a chance of not getting fleeced
> there,..

Well said.....but just imagine finding the one he does not own and taking the prize away from him.....

Muhtiman Wrote:

---

> Equine talk Wrote:
>

---

>

---

> > I think this sale will have more smoke and
> mirrors
> > than a David Copperfield show.
> > Most of the horses are prepared by MJ's
> trainers?!
> > Smells like BS to me.
> > I am not helping funding Jooste winning his own
> > race - will try my luck at the TBA sale -
> always
> > feels like I have a chance of not getting
> fleeced
> > there,..
>
> Well said.....but just imagine finding the one he
> does not own and taking the prize away from
> him.....


And what race for 2 million can you win off the TBA sale......rather then gamble of the CYS1 or 2 to win USD1 million.MJ cannot buy every horse on the sale...select properly and you have a chance.....Arion was R200K.....not a bad buy?

WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:
> And what race for 2 million can you win off the
> TBA sale......rather then gamble of the CYS1 or 2
> to win USD1 million.MJ cannot buy every horse on
> the sale...select properly and you have a
> chance.....Arion was R200K.....not a bad buy?

You got a fair sort there as the dam although from a top family only won on debut as a 2yr in a 800m dash with the Egyptian Greek up.....I think James Maree trained her (Lucky would know) and she went horribly wrong after an injury....I was told that she would make a top brood mare and have followed and made money off the projeny....if you cant fluke the race you are bound to get a place and your investment returned very shortly....

Hey M , I always thought Arion would improve fir further on run style, but not sure on breeding ?

hibernia Wrote:

---

> Hey M , I always thought Arion would improve fir
> further on run style, but not sure on breeding ?

The ped will definitely get ground.....especially in CT where they can really crawl....but jokes aside....this is a smart sort and bound to be more competitive over ground and improve with age....(tu)

We going to find another one or two like him on Friday night so if anyone genuinely interested in a piece send me a PM tks....

I am looking forward to the smoke and mirror show. !!

And people still believe that racing is controlled by Phumelela.....

Racing is controlled COMPLETELY by a VERY small group of people, kinda like the Illuminati but not nearly as bright.