Are the NHA acting with integrity wrt Mayfair/MJ?

oscar wrote: My only comment on this and the HHRA. When I and a few Indian Drs in Durban applied for colors to race horses.. the amount of paperwork we had to provide was huge.. however we had so much love for the game that we did it.. then came the interviews in the boardroom which checked what our jobs were , where we lived the lot, talk about FICA today this was FICA on steroids.. we did it , one of my great friends who is now a highly esteemed Professor of Medicine was interviewed for over 2 hours.. after that by the way the authorities then allowed you colors for maybe one horse or two horses or a % of one horse.

I accept times have changed and anybody can now go and get colors for 200 horses with one application form. However with that comes problems.. all trainers want new owners but cry when they don't pay their bills.. the authorities want new owners but don't interve when bills related to training, transport, vet etc bills are not paid... why not?

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louisg wrote: OTA , with regard to your earlier post, I see that the facts are confusing and frustrating you....

The point is that it is the fact that NHRA are NOT FLEXIBLE, which is allowing things to carry on as they are. They are sticking to their rules exactly and rigidly. MJ is no longer a member of NHRA and has resigned from the Company and has also handed in his own colours. As far as Racing is concerned he is gone.

So, whilst you state that I cannot see the wood from the trees, I obviously do not agree with that, but I must concede that I do not have your colourful vision, which sees red and nothing else....not even the facts.

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Over the Air wrote:

louisg wrote: OTA , with regard to your earlier post, I see that the facts are confusing and frustrating you....

The point is that it is the fact that NHRA are NOT FLEXIBLE, which is allowing things to carry on as they are. They are sticking to their rules exactly and rigidly. MJ is no longer a member of NHRA and has resigned from the Company and has also handed in his own colours. As far as Racing is concerned he is gone.

So, whilst you state that I cannot see the wood from the trees, I obviously do not agree with that, but I must concede that I do not have your colourful vision, which sees red and nothing else....not even the facts.

Louis if anyone is confused and irritated it must be you. It certainly isn't me. You quite correctly say that the NHRA are NOT FLEXIBLE ( or should not be ). Let me refer back to my original post and use one of the horses raced in partnership but carded to wear the Mayfair colours on the day:

The "INFLEXIBLE" NHA rules state that:

8.5.1 A HORSE owned in partnership shall be raced in partnership COLOURS or in the COLOURS of the individual partner specified in the application to REGISTER the partnership of the HORSE concerned.

So in effect, a horse that changes owners, loses or gains an owner in a partnership, or races in "new" colours should be subject to the standard change of ownership rules.

Using the horse TEVEZ as an example, and there are more, this horse raced in the partnership of Mayfair, Shirtliff and Ressell. The colours it raced in were Mayfair colours. For the Met race day, with all the Barends' shenanigans and pacifying of COSATU and PSA, the following was recorded in the stipes report:

RACE CARD CHANGES / OTHER:

a) TEVEZ (A Domeyer) – Ownership unchanged. Colours: White and blue halved horizontally, pink sleeves, blue cap.

The change recorded thus that the same owners were in the horse, but now instead of the usual Mayfair colours it raced in Shirtliffs colours. One of a few such "mayfairs" on the day.

Nowhere in the NHA registration and changes weekly reports, both prior to this raceday and after, does this change reflect. In effect this change has never been officially approved and documented as such.

Let's be having you Louis, I love debating with someone who does not know what he's talking about. I trust your understanding now extends to multi-colour status and not just the alleged red. LMFAO