R3000 to watch TT

They better not stop showing Ngong and Sweden

Looks like its william hill radio for me... Lol

As I understand it , it seems like a win win for most. It's basically the 2 channels that everyone wanted.

Uninterrupted local content on 239
You pay $80 or R 900 ( once off ?) for international racing if you want it , which is very cheap .

Local Bookies look to be losing out , which hardly makes one cry.

louisg Wrote:

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> Muhti, as a punter , you would want vit your way.
> But, seeing as half of the money goes directly to
> stakes, the Owners want it to stay just as it is.

OK if that is the case then let half go to stakes.....and let the punters get the incentives on the other half.....why should the operator pocket money from the punting pool slush fund (money that should have been paid)......their take out of betting pools is enough....the present tote model is failing with more and more punters going to bookies.....only way to keep them or get some back is to give incentives

And as for point one , surely with the rand weakening, PGL, will be increasing their revenue for exported pictures without any increase to their expenses

When ?

And what happens to the soccer previews etc - I suppose they will concetrate a lot more on those pools :S

I ll get the 2nd decoder if they dnt use local presenters ,reason-they dnt know the product

Something not adding up here

onyerway Wrote:

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> They better not stop showing Ngong and Sweden


I will miss the French trotters so much - The canter-down for the Met And July can never make up for that loss!!

louisg Wrote:

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> John Stuart returned my call on the decoder issue
> :-
> 1)The Rand has weakened and there is a definite
> swing towards Sports Betting which is hurting
> Horseracing turnover.
> 2)So, the moneys paid to the overseas partners who
> supply the International feed is now down by some
> 42%.
> 3)The International partners have been putting
> pressure for a few years now in terms of the
> Bookies receiving their product for next to
> nothing. Now, with the Rand weakening, they have
> had enough and PGL had to find a solution.
> 4)The truth is that Racing in SA costs some R720M
> to run annually and in spite of the Bookies having
> almost the same turnover as the tote, Bookies only
> contribute R114M of the R720M.
> 5)Overseas partners put their foot down, as they
> believe that Bookies in SA have had it "for next
> to nothing" for too long.
> 6)So, whilst the SA product has to be continued in
> the current manner, PGL have no control over
> Overseas feeds and the costs as determined over
> there.
> 7)In the meantime, PGL has obtained a Broadcasting
> license and will Broadcast the International feed
> on their own decoders, which is a lot more
> expensive for Bookies than at present.
> 8)Contrary to rumours, the new decoder costs about
> 80 US Dollars.
> 9)We will still have Tellytrack at home as per
> current, but will only see local Racing.
> 10)This is very good for local Owners etc, as more
> time for Interviews and shows such as Winning Ways
> etc.
>
> I love it !

Thanks LG

Now atleast there is clarity.

QUICK QUESTION : when will this change come onto affect

SA owners overseas get Racing International - great picture quality in a wide screen format - ONLY SA racing. Parade ring, canter down, lead-in, interviews. Fabulous. Hope 239 will be like that.
Re John Stuart comments about the Rand - surely also the revenue earned from selling SA racing overseas has gone up 42% (in Rand terms).

If you read this thread from it's beginning it is sad to see how getting this info is like having teeth extracted.

For most people here horse racing is a big part of their lives. It's just so tiring to beg these dicks who run the show, who are parasites of racing, to treat there customers with respect. They all have websites, so it's easy to post up news regarding things of importance or interest to us, the customer.

One way or another, I have paid stakes, trainers, jockeys, staff wages, TV crews and equipment and on and on, so it's a pity to be taken so for granted It also explains why punters have no loyalty to the companies who seem to give most of their consideration to the other customers, the owners.

Thanks to Craig and LG for some info leakage, but isn't it a pity your organisations are so classless that it falls to you to call and scrounge about to get some info for us mushroom punters. It does seem you guys must feel sorry that everyone is always in the dark otherwise you wouldn't try so hard? These companies are a disgrace, they lucky they are a monopoly (ok, a duopoly (you know what i mean)), they have no idea who their customers are, what they want, or how to treat them.

PS The people in blue at the Queens Plate who you will only see next year...it's not them either.