Fears and thoughts in South Africa
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Morning all, I have left out the good (its under precautionary announcement).
If I understand all the press that is being circulating, and all the experts out there.
My interpretation, which could be total bullshit?
1) I find our current direction a massive over reaction to the numbers related to the virus.
2) it appears that the plan is to keep the "majority" well under control via; food, aid and army.
This might become a massive trigger point? Hope not.
3) inject financial back-up to cover above.
The "minority" must get back to productivity levels asap and basically get the reasonably discipline citizens back to work.
We await Thursday's official feedback with baited breath.
On a lighter note: Strydom is not going to Hollywood, his back up singer might?
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If I understand all the press that is being circulating, and all the experts out there.
My interpretation, which could be total bullshit?
1) I find our current direction a massive over reaction to the numbers related to the virus.
2) it appears that the plan is to keep the "majority" well under control via; food, aid and army.
This might become a massive trigger point? Hope not.
3) inject financial back-up to cover above.
The "minority" must get back to productivity levels asap and basically get the reasonably discipline citizens back to work.
We await Thursday's official feedback with baited breath.
On a lighter note: Strydom is not going to Hollywood, his back up singer might?
Here are the words Piere
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5 years 1 month agoSylvester wrote: Downloaded the 1st 9 episode of Breeders
very disappointing!! has nothing to do with horses
LOL - if true, you didn't check IMDb first?
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5 years 1 month agoDean321 wrote: Howzit guys
What I got from last night's talk was only concerning. The agenda was about the support Goverment would be providing to business and citizens . The amounts needed is higher than telephone numbers.
With respect to the racing industry, this is about the furthest thing as part of an Essential service.
We will be going through some really tough times, the tough is still to come.
Personally & in my humble opinion I think our current President is doing an amazing task. (i would not want to be in his shoes)
Dean, we could have done a LOT WORSE....... can u imagine the FORMER PRES IN OFFICE......... we have been given 5 Million, hundred Billion...... listen carefully please !!!!!
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Gauteng, the Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal, which contribute about 65% to SA's economy, could remain under a strict lockdown even after the government relaxes conditions for the rest of the country, co-operative governance and traditional affairs minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma said on Tuesday.
SA is under a five-week lockdown, which is due to be lifted at the end of April, as the government battles to contain the spread of the highly contagious and potentially deadly coronavirus.
In an online briefing to MPs, Dlamini-Zuma said the lockdown would be lifted in stages and those areas worst affected were likely to remain under strict movement control for the foreseeable future. That will all depend on the infection numbers.
“There may be differentiated lockdowns in places.”
She said it may remain stringent where infections are high such as Gauteng, the Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal.
“Even if it comes to an end [the lockdown], it won’t end instantly. Big gatherings will not happen any time soon,” the minister said.
The lockdown has brought economic activity to a grinding halt and the government is now under pressure to at least partially open the economy to avert permanent company closures and mass job losses.
Dlamini-Zuma said blaming the lockdown for the economic crisis was not entirely accurate as the pandemic itself would depress the economy even more “if we do not do anything about”.
“Remember that Covid-19 found SA’s economy already depressed,” she said
The government has also been heavily criticised for some of the lockdown regulations, particularly on the sale of cooked hot food, alcohol and cigarettes with many critics viewing them as unreasonable and unnecessarily draconian.
But Dlamini-Zuma defended the controversial lockdown rules, saying relaxing them would undermine efforts to curb the spread of the disease.
“You can kiss the lockdown goodbye [if you allow] sale of cooked hot food,” the minister said.
“Alcohol is not essential, tobacco is not essential. Not drinking alcohol or not buying it is a small sacrifice to save the nation.”
Dlamini-Zuma said the ban on the sale of alcohol had also helped reduce violent crime and therefore eased pressure on the healthcare system as it prepared for a deluge of coronavirus cases.
The government has also come under fire for banning wine exports in updated regulations, hardly a week after shipments were initially permitted.
Transport minister Fikile Mbalula suggested that allowing the transportation of wine to the ports during the lockdown would attract thieves desperate to get their hands on alcohol.
“Every way one looks at it, [the ban on wine exports] seems a prime example of the exercise of power for the thrill of it, regardless of the damage it does, in this instance, to the Treasury, which needs every cent in tax revenue it can raise from the private sector,” said Geoff Jacobs, president of the Cape Chamber of Commerce.
“The way things are going, some people are beginning to think some measures taken to fight the spread of Covid-19 are akin to a man shooting himself in the foot because he is suffering from gout. The sooner this ban is lifted, the sooner our economy will recover once the emergency is over,” he said.
DA MP and co-operative governance spokesperson Haniff Hoosen warned that some of government’s lockdown regulations are likely to attract court challenges as they are unreasonable and heavy-handed.
“If the regulations are seen as unreasonable and heavy handed, people will soon take to the streets to protest. When you start coming with such regulations people will take you to court, and I do not think this is what you want as government,” said Hoosen.
Meanwhile, Dlamini-Zuma said discussions were taking place in the government to assist municipalities amid fears that they will be unable to pay salaries as residents struggle to meet payment obligations for services.
SA is under a five-week lockdown, which is due to be lifted at the end of April, as the government battles to contain the spread of the highly contagious and potentially deadly coronavirus.
In an online briefing to MPs, Dlamini-Zuma said the lockdown would be lifted in stages and those areas worst affected were likely to remain under strict movement control for the foreseeable future. That will all depend on the infection numbers.
“There may be differentiated lockdowns in places.”
She said it may remain stringent where infections are high such as Gauteng, the Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal.
“Even if it comes to an end [the lockdown], it won’t end instantly. Big gatherings will not happen any time soon,” the minister said.
The lockdown has brought economic activity to a grinding halt and the government is now under pressure to at least partially open the economy to avert permanent company closures and mass job losses.
Dlamini-Zuma said blaming the lockdown for the economic crisis was not entirely accurate as the pandemic itself would depress the economy even more “if we do not do anything about”.
“Remember that Covid-19 found SA’s economy already depressed,” she said
The government has also been heavily criticised for some of the lockdown regulations, particularly on the sale of cooked hot food, alcohol and cigarettes with many critics viewing them as unreasonable and unnecessarily draconian.
But Dlamini-Zuma defended the controversial lockdown rules, saying relaxing them would undermine efforts to curb the spread of the disease.
“You can kiss the lockdown goodbye [if you allow] sale of cooked hot food,” the minister said.
“Alcohol is not essential, tobacco is not essential. Not drinking alcohol or not buying it is a small sacrifice to save the nation.”
Dlamini-Zuma said the ban on the sale of alcohol had also helped reduce violent crime and therefore eased pressure on the healthcare system as it prepared for a deluge of coronavirus cases.
The government has also come under fire for banning wine exports in updated regulations, hardly a week after shipments were initially permitted.
Transport minister Fikile Mbalula suggested that allowing the transportation of wine to the ports during the lockdown would attract thieves desperate to get their hands on alcohol.
“Every way one looks at it, [the ban on wine exports] seems a prime example of the exercise of power for the thrill of it, regardless of the damage it does, in this instance, to the Treasury, which needs every cent in tax revenue it can raise from the private sector,” said Geoff Jacobs, president of the Cape Chamber of Commerce.
“The way things are going, some people are beginning to think some measures taken to fight the spread of Covid-19 are akin to a man shooting himself in the foot because he is suffering from gout. The sooner this ban is lifted, the sooner our economy will recover once the emergency is over,” he said.
DA MP and co-operative governance spokesperson Haniff Hoosen warned that some of government’s lockdown regulations are likely to attract court challenges as they are unreasonable and heavy-handed.
“If the regulations are seen as unreasonable and heavy handed, people will soon take to the streets to protest. When you start coming with such regulations people will take you to court, and I do not think this is what you want as government,” said Hoosen.
Meanwhile, Dlamini-Zuma said discussions were taking place in the government to assist municipalities amid fears that they will be unable to pay salaries as residents struggle to meet payment obligations for services.
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I see not one reason why Alcohol Exports or any other exports should be stopped
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.....all in the same boat....socialism in its purist form....:S
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By the time we are able to buy alcohol again Captain Morgan will be an Admiral.
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Is a civil war brewing in the states?
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Another 70,000 troops have been deployed here.
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...the office Johnnies cooks and clerks.....an untrained trigger finger on a fully automatic R4....:S
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