protecting the image of racing

its probably only me but is it morally correct to firstly have the chairman of the nhra to be allowed to have horses during his tenure and secondly how does it sound when he is one of the owners of a horse which the commentator bleets out that a huge betting coup has been pulled off?im in no way suggesting any skulduggery but rather than have doubters out there I don't think its good for the image of the game what occurred ..im sure this thread wont be popular but anyway would like to hear some views

It is definitely not only you, every f@cken mug punter out there is rightfully asking wtf just happened there. What else can you subscribe the dramatic form reversal, coupled with a betting coup to besides skulduggery? I agree with you 100% this guy should not be allowed to own horses while he heads up the Jockey Club. There should be a full investigation into the winner as well as the Tarry horse that ran last. This is a disgrace

Racing and skulldiggery dont go in the same sentance bro. Hahaha

Will musical man be selected for checking specimens?

Lets see

pirates wrote: its probably only me but is it morally correct to firstly have the chairman of the nhra to be allowed to have horses during his tenure and secondly how does it sound when he is one of the owners of a horse which the commentator bleets out that a huge betting coup has been pulled off?im in no way suggesting any skulduggery but rather than have doubters out there I don't think its good for the image of the game what occurred ..im sure this thread wont be popular but anyway would like to hear some views

In the old days the racing secretary could not wager a bet...

another question if one of his horses was involved in an objection how would those stipes who report to him feel about it?i would like to know if a person in his position in any other first world racing country is allowed to own horses ?

ShezaPunter wrote: Racing and skulldiggery dont go in the same sentance bro. Hahaha

Will musical man be selected for checking specimens?

Lets see

Sheza it needs to go far deeper than routine specimen analysis. The trainer needs to be grilled about how the horse improved on previous form, and more importantly why it was backed to show that improvement. I wonder if the buzzers haven't been recharged again....

No problem with this thread pirates and we can hope for some response and be assured it's being read

These are daily occurrences in horse racing in SA, I had a baby debut a few weeks back and two other trainers asked me if he was as good as they had heard.....WTF
Some Jockeys put their punters into horses, some trainers put the bigger owners into horses in the yard and the average owner and punters are mugs........ that is the way it works.
Ethics is a swear word in the industry so where you find an environment that has normalised the abnormal then what do you expect?
The average Joe is hesitant to get involved in horseracing because of what they hear including the inflated prices and deals done at the yearling sales....
You just need to go and have a bunny chow at Hollywood and sit near the hardened punters to hear what the jockeys have told them.....

So Hilton, what do I think..... "isn't it normal even if it doesn't appear ethical?"

Anyone else find it interesting that the last time the horse was supported it also won ? 2 years ago

went through the form now after reading the thread, my opinion is that the horse was supported last time out with a top jock on having his first run in Gauteng, obviously disappointing run as his CT formlines had plenty of winners all around him, Trainer Botes skillfully chose the right type of race today and with the 2.5 allowance he was always going to be a big runner, the only three errors were firstly the pricing up of 25/1, should have opened much shorter, and secondly the commentator calling it a betting coup which it was not, and thirdly i speak under correction with this one because i never followed today's racing, if the presenters never mentioned the horse as a big contender to win the race, so i agree with pirates who says 'no way suggesting any skulduggery'

I just wanna say i was "shocked" at the "electrifying" run by musical Man.

As far back as the 80's and Mr.R.Napier Chairman of Jockey Club of S.A. owned horses.

Going further back to the mid and late 70's and trainer Fred Rickaby is on record as having his most successful horse Country Fair win 13 races .Guess who was the owner?
Sir Francis de Guigand, Chairman of the Jockey Club. Source article by Mike Moon.