stipes report Lizzy Grey

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stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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The Stipendiary Stewards Reported (DA): EMOTIF (ARG) (A Delpech) : The winner. Selected for the taking of specimens for analysis. Trainer M de Kock advised (TN).
Jockey K Shea's left side stirrup leather on LIZZY GREY became detached shortly after the start resulting in Jockey K Shea having to remove his left foot from the stirrup iron. As a result of this the saddle subsequently slipped sideways and backwards, he then removed his right foot from the stirrup iron. Thereafter Jockey K Shea was unable to assist this filly in running and eased her out of the race in the straight. Jockey Shea was dislodged in the pull-up. The saddlery was examined by the Stipendiary Board after the running of this Race and was found to be in good order.


so can someone please explain how this happens? if its examined and found to be in good order ?? makes no logical sense and everyone just accepts this?

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

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if the stipes found the equipment broken then case closed - BUT this is not the case and all is in good order so why was he forced to take his foot out the irons - come on we need a better explanation then the leather became detached - then surely on examination it should be broken? huh the stipes are not making logical sense and we as the public deserve better than this - give us some logic - can someone please explain this or am i reading the report incorrectly but to me it is contradictory - how can something become detached if it is NOT BROKEN? Huh - examined by stipe and normal - come on fellow clanners do i need to get my eyes checked?

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

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BY001, go and get a stirrup leather and look at it. It is just a pin in a small hole that keeps the loop together. If the pin slips out you are gone. You can see it hanging down near his left ankle in the race. Does not need to be broken to malfunction.

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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so craig if the pin slipped out would this be examined to be normal by a stipe afterwards?

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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Craig im not crying from my pocket im just trying to see the logic - i thought jocks always also check equipment 100perc before they load so seems also strange that it was the only horse on the card that had an equipment malfunction. Anyway if it malfanctioned i accept it - just doesnt make sense to me how it can be examined fine and also checked at the start and then go so strangely wrong.

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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Please do not let this thread begun to be a 5/6 pages post to look for conspiracies why K Shea took his foot out of the stirrup.

this is racing and these things happens, surely everyone knows that, if it is unacceptable to you do not punt, get out off the game,

NO JOCKEY IS PREPARED TO FORFEIT HIS CAREER FOR A PALTRY FEW THOUSAND RAND TO LOSE A STIRRUP OR WHAT EVER HAPPENED, LEAST OF AL K SHEA.

I also lost money, GIVES A DEEP SIGH UTTER A FEW SWEAR WORDS AND move on to the next race.

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

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When you are sitting on top of a horse and it is jogging around and or messing around and you possibly decide to change your length of your stirrups, the leather and buckle is under a flap on the saddle and you push the pin into the hole by feel as you cannot see it from above. 95% of the time it slides in fine but every now and then you think it is in but it has not gone right in properly and thats where the trouble starts. As you put the pressure on it can pull out and then your loop where the iron is on becomes detatched as happened to Kevin. Most time you actually fall off as it happens so quickly but Kevin is a very good jockey and managed to stay on. If he had fallen off there could have been a hude accident in the race.

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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Why did it not slip going down to the start?
Maybe the jock fiddled with his equipment down at the start?
My question is if nothing was wrong on going down to post
then Y as the gates open?
If they say the pin slipped then he must have not put it in correctly after fiddling with it
down at the start.Somebody is up to foul play i.m.o.
The horse was odds on and the public must just except the stipes report(no ways)
Something very FISHY !!!!!:X(td)

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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K Shea has been a rogue and will always be one.. Just my opinion. Wonder where he is today collecting his cash..

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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I do not see much wrong with this - it is a racing mishap and much be treated as such. Let us leave all the conspiracies or under the table thinkings. Kevin Shea is worldclass and did dam well to stay on that horse for as along as he did!

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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Bob my point exactly we must just accept it and be told by some individuals not to punt if we dont accept this. oh please - i accept logic and fairness and understand things can go wrong but as Bob says why suddenly the malfunction and fine on the way to the start? and so much time to check all was in order given what actually happened at the start with the horse getting stuck in the pens etc? so my question ? why suddenly the malfunction?

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Re: Re: stipes report Lizzy Grey

13 years 1 month ago
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Let me start by saying I had no interest in the race ,nor did I jump to the conclusion that there was skullduggery,although I was sure the Shea/ De Kock connection would not go unnoticed ::o
HOWEVER,that stipes report IS a crock of Sh!t..................Equipment is either "in good order " or it malfunctions ..........it cannot be both FFS ..........if equipment fails to operate,even if due to incorrect application,it still cannot also be described as "in good order"

(If a mechanic manages to fit a carburettor upside down, it is not broken .......the engine does malfunction.........but cannot be described as "in good order" )

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