stipes report Lizzy Grey

Thanks Pirates, I tried last night as well, with about the same result!(tu) I have just spoken to the stipes and as we said it was the pin pulling out. Gavin also inspected the equiment and was satisfied it was just a racing accident and nothing else.He said it had happened to him as well. As the stipe said if you knew it was going to happen would you be that much of an idiot to send the horse to the front on a bend knowing you could fall off with the whole field to come over you.

Homer not much wrong - ag please what race were you watching?

gregbucks Wrote:

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> Okay I'm not into conspiracy theories BUT why is
> it always ''hot'' favourites that these kind of
> things happen to??.... In the Cape how many times
> do we see hotties loosing lengths at the start,
> ALWAYS fancied horses... guess it must be
> coincidence or is that conincidence....:S


blueyonder i am replying to gregs comment...if i go back in the last 10 meetings do you think it will only be favourites the above mentioned by greg it has happened to?i also did my money but it happens its racing it is flesh and blood we dealing with it will happen again and again...

which horses has it happened to in the last 10 meetings irrespective of price ? care to elaborate?

so not one horse bar a favourite has been slow away in the last ten meetings?

Bob Wrote:

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> Why did it not slip going down to the start?
> Maybe the jock fiddled with his equipment down at
> the start?
> My question is if nothing was wrong on going down
> to post
> then Y as the gates open?
> If they say the pin slipped then he must have not
> put it in correctly after fiddling with it
> down at the start.Somebody is up to foul play
> i.m.o.
> The horse was odds on and the public must just
> except the stipes report(no ways)
> Something very FISHY !!!!!:X(td)

if a horse goes down to the start green/nervous, a jock will drop his irons 1 or 2 holes so that he and the horse are comfortable. although a small difference to the untrained eye, it can make a huge difference during the race and only someone that has ever ridden a horse can relate.

as you can see from the pic, our leathers are generally small and light. some can last years while others have been known to break after only a few meetings. it is one of MANY safety aspects we have to be careful of.

i am just glad that K.Shea didnt fall into the inside concrete wall covered with barbed wire at the pull-ups cross over road...

so hypothetically if a jockey did tamper with the equipment as Craig explained how a malfunction could happen - does that mean then any jock could do it on any horse in any race and the public must accept it as a malfunction - BTW i am now talking hypothetically? would the stipes say all in good order - so basically then we as the public are screwed and must accept this hypothetical scenario no matter what ? is this correct? im just making a point - lets say a jock was dishonest and did do this what is in place to protect the public?

Chippy i see exactly your point that equipment can fail - this is NOT the point i am making so please see my point of view

Blue, would you risk your life,by tampering with you equipment.Because thats whats at stake for a Jockey..

suppose it would depend what was at stake wouldnt it - i would evaluate the risk to reward

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James if you not interested you welcome to leave the thread you are not obligated to hang around btw but we feel we have valid points and we are entitled to some answers its only fair isnt it