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louisg wrote: Tipster....um.... so we are exporting directly now, on par with the rest of the World, due to RSA efforts ?
If not, we haven't achieved anything, no matter what spin we put on it.

Tipster wrote:

louisg wrote: Correct O.T.Air - Racing South Africa (RSA) achieved absolutely nothing. Simple to understand. I notice that Peter Gibson, ex RSA, has now joined TBA/BSA. .. But, what a waste of money Racing South Africa was.... So, Don, I ask , " participation in WHAT" ? Another fund draining exercise, achieving exactly what ? Nothing HAS been achieved !
Ultimately, change is due !

Truth is that we need to show or go. ... We need to get WITH IT !

Louis, you have zero idea what Gibson and his team faced. What nobody understands is that the South African government are responsible for meeting the demands made by other countries for export compliance and in the case of horse exports, Racing South Africa (RSA) were only able to offer support as industry. With RSA funding ERC was able to develop a new test for AHS where a positive or negative was available in two hours instead of the previous three weeks – this is apart from the numerous other scientific advances made by ERC limited funding – just read Prof Ian Sanne’s reports on what has been achieved by ERC. RSA then worked with government in presenting a case to the World Animal Health Organisation (OIE) to change the AHS Code Chapter. The OIE duly changed the AHS code in 2012, a considerable achievement considering that the OIE only sit once a year, so there is only one chance per year to present a case. Now RSA had the "simple" (according to all of the ignoramuses in racing out there) of SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT to achieve the minimum compliance for AHS controls required by the OIE and all of the various trading partners before the export protocols could be changed accordingly. How would you have enjoyed that task Louis? You would not have had any control over decision making, all you could have done was offer support to government in strategy to control an endemic air borne disease carried by a midge that effects a massive area in a third world country. Thankless task if ever there was one and Gibson deserves a medal for lasting so long against a backdrop of continual criticism from people who knew absolutely zero about what he faced. By the way, there are many sectors in agriculture that have the exact same export problems that horse exports have due to the inability of the SA government to meet the minimum compliance.

Muhtiman wrote:

Tipster wrote:

louisg wrote: Correct O.T.Air - Racing South Africa (RSA) achieved absolutely nothing. Simple to understand. I notice that Peter Gibson, ex RSA, has now joined TBA/BSA. .. But, what a waste of money Racing South Africa was.... So, Don, I ask , " participation in WHAT" ? Another fund draining exercise, achieving exactly what ? Nothing HAS been achieved !
Ultimately, change is due !

Truth is that we need to show or go. ... We need to get WITH IT !

Louis, you have zero idea what Gibson and his team faced. What nobody understands is that the South African government are responsible for meeting the demands made by other countries for export compliance and in the case of horse exports, Racing South Africa (RSA) were only able to offer support as industry. With RSA funding ERC was able to develop a new test for AHS where a positive or negative was available in two hours instead of the previous three weeks – this is apart from the numerous other scientific advances made by ERC limited funding – just read Prof Ian Sanne’s reports on what has been achieved by ERC. RSA then worked with government in presenting a case to the World Animal Health Organisation (OIE) to change the AHS Code Chapter. The OIE duly changed the AHS code in 2012, a considerable achievement considering that the OIE only sit once a year, so there is only one chance per year to present a case. Now RSA had the "simple" (according to all of the ignoramuses in racing out there) of SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT to achieve the minimum compliance for AHS controls required by the OIE and all of the various trading partners before the export protocols could be changed accordingly. How would you have enjoyed that task Louis? You would not have had any control over decision making, all you could have done was offer support to government in strategy to control an endemic air borne disease carried by a midge that effects a massive area in a third world country. Thankless task if ever there was one and Gibson deserves a medal for lasting so long against a backdrop of continual criticism from people who knew absolutely zero about what he faced. By the way, there are many sectors in agriculture that have the exact same export problems that horse exports have due to the inability of the SA government to meet the minimum compliance.

If this is the case then why was funding pulled that resulted in the disbanding of RSA.....
why then is Peter STILL trying to keep RSA afloat when even the remaining main funder the TBA is saying (through chairperson Susan Rowett) that the RSA is no more....if RSA now stripped of the AHS research funding functions and the Quarantine station is to remain open in an effort to try and seek a political solution with government to take control of the horse export issue....why does Gibson then not stay on....you journalist folk must have heard about the many RSA spats with the powers that be....that finally resulted in them deciding no more....yet Peter insists that stripped down RSA is still going....how the hell are TBA going to keep funding this venture when their own future is in the balance.... :blink:

rob faux wrote: I understand that this war may cause problems but are some of the horrors not just perception.
One of the issues that seems to be creating concern---2 sales , 2 days apart!
What is the difference if CTS sell 150 horses on Friday And TBA another 150 on Sunday - they were always selling those horses both days...it's now just 2 sales , rather than one sale, over 2 days!!!
What am I missing?

Tigershark wrote: Rob, I would also like to think this issue was so simplistic however I did not enjoy the TBA'S stranglehold it had on the sales for years and I am all for change but is this really change? More of the same rubbish on its way in my opinion.

I am not for or against any sales company but more interested in what is going to be different??? I have no allegiance to either camp as I rely on neither for my living. There are people who do rely on these sales companies to make a living as well as customers who want change. Minimum bid amount, upfront reserve prices, no bidding up etc.

So for me not so simple and neither does the way in which it is happening sit well with me, but I suppose this type of thing will continue until it is regulated by government.